This one is at home. I’ve led groups and setup on this wall multiple times.
My sincere condolences to the family. Heart breaking.
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=39576786&ni…ens-group-falls-dies-during-climbing-activity
Trip Report
This one is at home. I’ve led groups and setup on this wall multiple times.
My sincere condolences to the family. Heart breaking.
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=39576786&ni…ens-group-falls-dies-during-climbing-activity
Kuenn
(Clarification) Whether one or any of the group ever goes back to the mountain to climb is of little consequence. I may be wrong but I doubt the purpose of the outing was to make 5.10ers out of them. What IS of consequence is helping these youth regain a mental and psychological state where they can sleep at night, trust adult leadership, and take a calculated risk with some degree of confidence.
Whether they ever put another “foot in the stirrup” is not important, neither was it my point.
Kuenn
With all respect and condolences for this man’s family and friends, I can’t help but wonder about the potential impact this accident can/will have on the group, and on future outings. More that just a classic aphorism, there’s real wisdom in the saying, “when life or a horse throws you, get back on as soon as you can.”
Being party to a scouting event that ended in tragedy some 45 years ago, where two boys lost their life, if not handled prudently and tenderly, these misfortunes can really mess up young minds – and a few old one’s too.
“When trust is high, relative to fear, people and people systems function well. When fear is high, relative to trust, they break down.” – Jack Gibb
Scott Patterson
I’ve had friends go both ways after an accident. One family member’s spouse was in a climbing accident (serious enough or convulsions, but not serious enough to cause permanent damage[?]) and both of them quit climbing for good. Other friends have lost climbing partners along the way and just keep on climbing.
It’s a personal choice and there isn’t a right or wrong answer.
ratagonia
I would not consider it a problem if none of these people ever went climbing again. There’s a lot of other things people can do. Living in fear – yeah, not a good idea. But staying away from climbing / and/or edges – lots of people already do that.
But, up to them, obviously.
T
Canyonero
But for the grace of God, there go I….
Still, a 40 lb rope? Maybe a 40 lb pack with a rope in it. Otherwise what is that, 800 feet of 11 mm?
ratagonia
600 feet of Canyonero rope weighs 30 lbs, so maybe he had 800 feet of Canyonero…
not like one should expect technical accuracy from the NEWS.
T
Mountaineer
Horrible. Sounds like a wonderful person and example to many.
Kuenn
Very sad.
Sounds like he was trying to do the right things. Alas, accidents do happen, despite one’s best efforts to avoid them. Couple of his own kids witnessed it, too… Tragic!
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