Trip Report

UT: Ticaboo Mesa Good Day Jim

On the weekend of May 2-3, lacking any partners we could team up with at the last minute, my wife and I decided to return to Ticaboo Mesa and attempt Good Day Jim (GDJ). Two weeks before, we had completed Hard Day Harvey (HDH) with two other partners so it made some sense to return to somewhat familiar terrain. The reports we had indicated that GDJ would be somewhat easier. Of the two forks you can start out in, we chose the “keeper pothole” fork for two reasons: 1. We wanted the challenge of the keeper and 2. We figured if for some reason we couldn’t overcome the keeper, we could easily retreat up canyon and move over to the other fork.
What we found: Before arriving at the keeper pothole, there was some open wash walking with minor drops, then we arrived at the first main drop into the canyon. Our primary beta was Luke’s but we also had two other sources with us. At this first drop, we descended just on the left side of the main watercourse by slinging a boulder a shorts ways back up and hand-lining it down the short drop. We later retrieved the sling on the way back out.
After some easy and brief narrow sections, we arrived at the first rap described by Luke and descended, but left our rope in place while we went down a little further to inspect the keeper. It was perhaps about half way sand/mud filled so it’s depth was about 7 feet and the bottom was a fairly firm mud. It appeared easy enough to overcome so we pulled our rope and found another anchor just above the keeper. We set up a rappel line that extended well past the keeper – all the way down the slab. I descended part way to where I felt like I could make a good, solid pack toss, tied myself off and attaching a shorter 40’ rope to myself & the packs, and tossed both our packs easily down the slab past the keeper.
Once in the keeper, we could have just done a partner assist to get out, but with sticky, gooey mud on our feet, I figured it would be a little tricky, so since I had brought a couple of extra pieces of equipment for something like this, I decided this was a good time to use it. I attached a Tibloc & etrier to the rope running to our packs and tried to ascend out while my wife waited above, but there was nothing on the lip/edge of the pothole to grab, so I asked my wife to come on down and give me a boost so I could scramble a little higher and pull myself out. Then she followed, easily using the etrier and we finished descending the slab using the rappel line we had set up.
The remainder of the canyon offered many more potholes of various sizes and shapes – all of which were dry except one near the very end, just before you join HDH and just before the 6 ft. drop onto the ledge that leads down to HDH. That one had very soft, gooey mud that one of my feet sunk completely into – a nice baptism for my new Bestard canyoneering boots. Some of the raps into the potholes were a little difficult. The so-called “squeeze section” was very brief and not particularly challenging.
GDJ really differs from HDH in two ways: 1. GDJ is much easier physically overall because it lacks the extensive narrows in HDH that require so much stemming & squeezing and 2. The main feature in GDJ is potholes, not tight narrows. HDH has a way of luring you in. The first 1.5 – 2 hours is easy. You think you’ll be out in another 2 hours, but then the cross-jointed fins are encountered and the trouble begins. In GDJ, none of the other potholes ever presented any serious escape problem. If GDJ was in wet condition, the pothole escapes could be much more difficult than what we found and it might deserve the “R” rating Shane gave it. Also, it should be noted that the week following our descent, there has been quite a bit of rain across Utah and checking on radar, I saw showers in this area on several occasions. Never caught anything heavy though.
To escape GDJ, we utilized the GDJ exit on the west side of the canyon. After GDJ and HDH come together, it’s about a 20 minute walk down the open canyon to the big drop off with the cottonwoods below. From there, we followed the same trail on the right side that follows the bench above the canyon bottom. I measured a 10 minute walk to where you begin the exit. It took us about 30 minutes to gain the main elevation on the exit to where things begin to moderate and level out some. Overall, it took us 2:10 to make it back to our vehicle. Temps were close to 80° so that slowed us some. If using the GDJ exit, as you get near the top of the main elevation gain, there’s a platform area with a 20 ft cliffband and a crack in that cliff is home to a beehive. If you pay attention, you can hear them buzzing around. That’s the first time we’ve ever found something like that in this kind of country. An interesting & brief diversion to the slog out of there.

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Authorpeakbaggers
DateMay 8, 2015
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  • coloradocanyoneer

    We did GDJ this weekend and it was full of water. Great canyon that took us 11 hours to complete including a 2.5 hour exit with a group of 4. I honestly don’t know how Shane gives it a 6-7 hour rating – he must be a speed demon (or we’re really really slow)! We had about 3 or 4 swimmers throughout the canyon and lots of wading but cannot for the life of me figure out where the keepers were. The swimmers we had were all easily exited without partner assists so I’m wracking my brain trying to figure out what part of the canyon had the keepers. I guess it had to of been one of the swimmers because the ones where we just waded were all easily exited as well. Not sure if maybe a lot of sand and mud had covered them.

    We had high hopes to walk down to the lake but we reached the exit at 6:30 and decided it was smart to not spend anymore time in the canyon. It was a good call as we had to use headlamps for the last 30 minutes of our hike out.

    We had originally planned on Hard Day Harvey but didn’t reach the trailhead until about 9:30 and the beta from Shane’s site lists HDH as a 7-8 hour canyon so we opted for GDJ instead and that still took us 11 hours. Wonder how long that would have taken us if we’d chosen to do that. The beta for Alcatraz was similar – with a group of 3 of us I think we were still a few hours off of the time listed.

    I don’t hold Shane accountable for any difference my group may have in time as I take full responsibility when entering the canyons – however I’m truly curious if that canyon could be done in 6 hours at a normal speed or if I just have a slow group.

    • ratagonia

      Conditions make a huge difference in the time required, as does experience and proficiency in THIS TYPE of canyon.

      Tom

  • Went through both Hard Day and Good Day this last weekend from the road. Both were dry except the last pothole in Good Day that was easily bypassed. Did the Kelsey shortcut exit on Good Day. Just like he states in his book, crumbly rock and a tough climb, would not recommend this exit.

    Fun canyons

  • ratagonia

    hey, Peak –

    You are unclear as to whether you rapped the “last drop”. Could you clarify what you did there?

    Shane’s original beta is from the lake, and with the lake at a fairly high level too. The lake is quite a bit lower now.

    Tom

  • coloradocanyoneer

    Awesome, thanks for the beta, guys, I appreciate it. I did seven-mile from the water up 6 years ago but don’t think we’ll be getting a boat this time around. We’re planning a longer trip, though, so I was hoping to get a good mix of slots and maybe a day relaxing on a sandy beach. Not too interested in hanging out near bullfrog and wasn’t sure what other areas gave good or close access to the water (or canyon rim above the water) via 4×4.

  • The walk down to the lake is just that…a walk on Kayenta rock in an easy drainage. It likely is a 20 minute walk each way, maybe a tad less. It is not a particularly lovely spot, nor is it unattractive.

    The ratings? Tough one. As I recall the first pothole is either quite challenging, full or water or full of sand and not even decipherable. The next section can be entirely bypassed on the right, yet while sometimes time consuming, it really is more intimidating to the eye than the reality. The rest of the canyon does not stand out in my mind as having real challenges (?). So regardless of a 4 rating or an R rating, quite often, one would do the canyon wondering what the authors were talking about, or worse assume that canyons with that rating are easily within their skill set. Fixed ratings, in dynamic systems, is a mine field. The uninitiated will step on a mine eventually. KABOOM. Most will work it out, have a story to tell and dis them dern folk who rate canyons.

  • ratagonia

    Always brings to mind this Flash Flood story well-told on Shane’s site:

    http://www.climb-utah.com/Powell/goodday1.htm

  • ratagonia

    I suggest a rating of 4B III for Good Day Jim, though it has been a while since I have been there. I see no reason for an “R”.

    It has potholes, which might require some pothole escape tools and methods. Thus it gets a “4”.

    ALL potholes can be extra problematic in muddy conditions – this is not a special case.

    There is no significant mae-west type sideways slot climbing, so it does not get a SLOT-?? rating.

    Shane may have given it an R rating Back In The Day, but at the moment, potholes are not considered exceptional. Currently, the above is

    Tom

    • Mountaineer

      I agree. I was in there not too long ago. I rated it a 4.6 on a x.0 to x.9 on my personal scale, where x is a 2/3/4. It gets a 4 for the potholes. I’m not a fan of the simple 3 or 4 rating system, so I scale them all from 0 through 9 on difficulty. Very subjective for sure, but gives me at least an indicator when I go back and look through my logs. I also had in my notes the return was long. Perhaps since it was such a fun day in there. 😉

      It is a tough one! Nice job Peak!

  • coloradocanyoneer

    Hey Peak, curious if you or anyone know if it’s possible to reach the lake from HDH, GDJ or anywhere near there. Planning on doing some canyons in the area this year and would like to know if we can take a small detour and enjoy some swimming after or during one of the canyons. Thanks!

    • peakbaggers

      Once you’re at the last drop before you begin the climb back out using the GDJ exit, you should be able to drop on down and hike out to the lake, however far it is. When we did it, we did not attempt to reach the lake and could not see it from where we began to ascend out. As Tom says below, I have no idea what conditions you may encounter to do so and there may be some distance to reach the lake depending on level. Shane’s route description on Climb-Utah.com for GDJ & HDH has you coming in from the lake initially. That way you can hike up route in the cooler morning and finish the canyon in the afternoon with a cooling dip, but you need to access by boat. He makes no mention of potential terrain difficulties. Starting from the top requires a good clearance vehicle to get in, almost an hour of off-pavement driving and the hike back up could be very warm.

    • ratagonia

      Yes, though…

      with the lake level down, the “easily accessed” part of the lake might be really crappy. Or it could be a bit of walk over really crappy ground/mud/weeds etc. to get to some swimmable lake water.

      Tom