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Always someone elses fault

If you die in a canyon because you didn’t check the water levels yourself, you can sue the park service. You can do the same if you ignore warning signs at Emerald Pools and slip off a cliff because every cliff isn’t chained off. Now you can file charges if you perish in a blizzard on Mt. Everest.

Of course, every situation is always someone elses fault. Unfortunately, I forgot to sue when I got stuck in that crack in Fiery Furnace/Fin Land. I should have gone after the park service, dang it.

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Authorscott patterson
DateFebruary 9, 2006
Discussion14 replies
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  • adkramoo

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “bruce silliman” wrote: > he says that we are going to sue the BLM and Grand Staircase Escalante Here > is what I’m asking in my lawsuit: > 1. $1.50 for one ruined pair of shorts.

    Almost scared to ask. What did you do? Slice them up for bandages?

    > 3. Mileage from Bryce Canyon, Utah to Las Vegas, Nevada for two follow-up > xrays. 2 X 500 miles @ the IRS Mileage Rate of $0.45 = $450.00.

    Ugh. This sounds too truthful to be funny

    > 5. $15 million for not being able to attend TurkeyFest and Freezefest!

    What is that old expression? “Watch out, you may get wha you asked for!”

    > 6. $1.50 for the 24 oz bud light that I had to consume to ease the > embarrassment of telling the nurse what I was doing. All she could say was > “You weren’t hiking alone were you?”

    Ahhh, painkiller. But, but, but, Bud Light? Now that’s embarrassing! R

  • bruce silliman

    I’ve consulted my millionaire brother who is a high faluting lawyer type and he says that we are going to sue the BLM and Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument for the damage to my ankle and my brain that occured because they did not take that rock out of Egypt 3, knowing full well that I was going to hike that canyon sometime in the timeframe 2005 to 2015. Here is what I’m asking in my lawsuit: 1. $1.50 for one ruined pair of shorts. 2. $0.67 for 2 3/4 feet of duct tape. 3. Mileage from Bryce Canyon, Utah to Las Vegas, Nevada for two follow-up xrays. 2 X 500 miles @ the IRS Mileage Rate of $0.45 = $450.00. 4. $7.5 million for mental hurt and pain that I suffer on a daily basis; it has nothing to do with my job. 5. $15 million for not being able to attend TurkeyFest and Freezefest! 6. $1.50 for the 24 oz bud light that I had to consume to ease the embarrassment of telling the nurse what I was doing. All she could say was “You weren’t hiking alone were you?”

    LOL

    bruce from bryce

    >From: “davewyo1” davewyo1@yahoo.com

    Reply-To: Yahoo Canyons Group

    To: Yahoo Canyons Group

    Subject: [from Canyons Group] Re: Always someone elses fault >Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:43:44 -0000

    What?You’re not going after compensation for the intangibles?The >mental anguish and such.I mean,how easy could it have been to get >that band-aid off?

    >— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “Bill Westerhoff” > wrote:

    Hey, I followed Ram down Shennanigans during the Freezefest and

    scraped my elbow and wore a hole in my pack. I smell a lawsuit >there

    as well… my lawyers will be in contact Ram, looking for >restitution

    of 1 band aid and perhaps some duct tape. You have been warned….

    Bill

    If you die in a canyon because you didn’t check the water >levels

    > yourself, you can sue the park service. You can do the same >if

    you

    > ignore warning signs at Emerald Pools and slip off a cliff >because

    > every cliff isn’t chained off. Now you can file charges if >you

    > perish in a blizzard on Mt. Everest.

    That’s nuts! What % of summiters die up there?

    > Of course, every situation is always someone elses fault.

    > Unfortunately, I forgot to sue when I got stuck in that crack in

    Fiery

    > Furnace/Fin Land. I should have gone after the park service,

    dang it.

    Scott, we would have had to make a good show of it though. Push >you

    in

    > a bit more snuggly and left you there for while. Your right! >There

    was

    > no warning sign about size requirements there. tsk, tsk!

    > R

    >

  • davewyo1

    Hey,that was unsolicited pro bono legal advice.We should all follow it…

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “Rob Heineman” wrote:

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “Bill Westerhoff”

  • Rob Heineman

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “Bill Westerhoff” wrote:

    I think you should go with the public defender route Ram… >

    I don’t know. Ram has been working so much, he may not qualify for the best.

    Friends don’t sue friends. You know, there’s no time like the present to notify your friends and family that you would never want your adventuring buddies sued if you had an accident. Put it in your will, too. I’ve heard it’s already on that waiver form you have to sign now if you want to go on a trip with Ram . . .

    Your friendly neighborhood PD

  • adkramoo

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “scott c.” wrote: >> Hey now and ouch. Man, I knew that village idiot thing would come back to bite me. > > Scott Card, FORMERLY known as the village idiot > > Bill Westerhoff wrote: > I think you should go with the public defender route Ram…

    We aren’t replacing you. We need a whole army of legal help. And maybe a whole team of psychiatrists too. Claim insanity, which isn’t much of a reach, considering what we call fun. R

  • scott c.

    Hey now and ouch. Man, I knew that village idiot thing would come back to bite me.

    Scott Card, FORMERLY known as the village idiot

    Bill Westerhoff thedesertnomad@hotmail.com> wrote: I think you should go with the public defender route Ram…

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “adkramoo” wrote:

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “Bill Westerhoff” Hey, I followed Ram down Shennanigans during the Freezefest > and > scraped my elbow and wore a hole in my pack. I smell a lawsuit > there

    as well… my lawyers will be in contact Ram, looking for > restitution

    of 1 band aid and perhaps some duct tape. You have been warned….

    What did they make you do, at the bakeries, in the olden times? Take a > number please! Get in line. Single file, please. > Calling Scott Card! I may need your services…in perpetuity. Ou, ou, > the damage done! > Ram >

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  • adkramoo

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “Bill Westerhoff” wrote:

    I think you should go with the public defender route Ram…

    You mean the infamous Rob Heineman!!! God only knows what he would charge! I hope he only curses out those judges he hates, when he is on the trips and not in the courtroom. R

  • Bill Westerhoff

    I think you should go with the public defender route Ram…

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “adkramoo” wrote:

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “Bill Westerhoff” Hey, I followed Ram down Shennanigans during the Freezefest > and > scraped my elbow and wore a hole in my pack. I smell a lawsuit > there

    as well… my lawyers will be in contact Ram, looking for > restitution

    of 1 band aid and perhaps some duct tape. You have been warned….

    What did they make you do, at the bakeries, in the olden times? Take a > number please! Get in line. Single file, please. > Calling Scott Card! I may need your services…in perpetuity. Ou, ou, > the damage done! > Ram >

  • scott c.

    Ready, willing, and able, Ram. Will work for an occasional invite to a canyon and Imlay gear. Tom, you better get me on retainer, too. Oh wait, I still owe Tom a couple of bucks for a map. Dang 😉

    Scott Card

    adkramoo adkramoo@aol.com> wrote: — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “Bill Westerhoff” wrote:> Hey, I followed Ram down Shennanigans during the Freezefest and > scraped my elbow and wore a hole in my pack. I smell a lawsuit there > as well… my lawyers will be in contact Ram, looking for restitution > of 1 band aid and perhaps some duct tape. You have been warned….

    What did they make you do, at the bakeries, in the olden times? Take a number please! Get in line. Single file, please. Calling Scott Card! I may need your services…in perpetuity. Ou, ou, the damage done! Ram

    When you post, please change the Subject appropriately, to make reading and searching easier. You can use the following abbreviations: TRIP = Trip Report; BETA = Canyon Beta; PARTNER = Partner and/or Rides; ETHICS = Ethics; TECH = Technical Questions and Tips; BIZ = E Group Business; SALE = Stuff for Sale. Please use a Tilde ~ after the abbreviation, so we know you are coding for us, such as:

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    To change your delivery options, go to the Canyons Egroup page on yahoo: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/

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  • “I forgot to sue when I got stuck in that crack in Fiery Furnace/Fin Land”

    Yeah I chickened out of trying that… at 6’3″ and WAS 225lbs, that didn’t look like the way to go… especially since the 190 lb guys were complaining about it.

  • adkramoo

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “Bill Westerhoff” wrote:> Hey, I followed Ram down Shennanigans during the Freezefest and > scraped my elbow and wore a hole in my pack. I smell a lawsuit there > as well… my lawyers will be in contact Ram, looking for restitution > of 1 band aid and perhaps some duct tape. You have been warned….

    What did they make you do, at the bakeries, in the olden times? Take a number please! Get in line. Single file, please. Calling Scott Card! I may need your services…in perpetuity. Ou, ou, the damage done! Ram

  • davewyo1

    What?You’re not going after compensation for the intangibles?The mental anguish and such.I mean,how easy could it have been to get that band-aid off?

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “Bill Westerhoff” wrote:

    Hey, I followed Ram down Shennanigans during the Freezefest and > scraped my elbow and wore a hole in my pack. I smell a lawsuit there > as well… my lawyers will be in contact Ram, looking for restitution > of 1 band aid and perhaps some duct tape. You have been warned….

    Bill

    > If you die in a canyon because you didn’t check the water levels

    yourself, you can sue the park service. You can do the same if > you

    ignore warning signs at Emerald Pools and slip off a cliff because

    every cliff isn’t chained off. Now you can file charges if you

    perish in a blizzard on Mt. Everest.

    That’s nuts! What % of summiters die up there?

    > Of course, every situation is always someone elses fault.

    Unfortunately, I forgot to sue when I got stuck in that crack in > Fiery

    Furnace/Fin Land. I should have gone after the park service, > dang it.

    Scott, we would have had to make a good show of it though. Push you > in

    a bit more snuggly and left you there for while. Your right! There > was

    no warning sign about size requirements there. tsk, tsk!

    R

    >

  • Bill Westerhoff

    Hey, I followed Ram down Shennanigans during the Freezefest and scraped my elbow and wore a hole in my pack. I smell a lawsuit there as well… my lawyers will be in contact Ram, looking for restitution of 1 band aid and perhaps some duct tape. You have been warned….

    Bill

    If you die in a canyon because you didn’t check the water levels > yourself, you can sue the park service. You can do the same if you > ignore warning signs at Emerald Pools and slip off a cliff because > every cliff isn’t chained off. Now you can file charges if you > perish in a blizzard on Mt. Everest.

    That’s nuts! What % of summiters die up there?

    > Of course, every situation is always someone elses fault. > Unfortunately, I forgot to sue when I got stuck in that crack in Fiery > Furnace/Fin Land. I should have gone after the park service, dang it.

    Scott, we would have had to make a good show of it though. Push you in > a bit more snuggly and left you there for while. Your right! There was > no warning sign about size requirements there. tsk, tsk! > R >

  • adkramoo

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, scott patterson wrote:

    If you die in a canyon because you didn’t check the water levels yourself, you can sue the park service. You can do the same if you ignore warning signs at Emerald Pools and slip off a cliff because every cliff isn’t chained off. Now you can file charges if you perish in a blizzard on Mt. Everest.

    That’s nuts! What % of summiters die up there?

    > Of course, every situation is always someone elses fault. Unfortunately, I forgot to sue when I got stuck in that crack in Fiery Furnace/Fin Land. I should have gone after the park service, dang it.

    Scott, we would have had to make a good show of it though. Push you in a bit more snuggly and left you there for while. Your right! There was no warning sign about size requirements there. tsk, tsk! R