I am considering buying the Beal Cilaos rope, 9.5mm by 60m (a Beal canyoneering rope). Anybody use this rope? Comment much appreciated. Thanks.
Teuns Kok South Africa
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I am considering buying the Beal Cilaos rope, 9.5mm by 60m (a Beal canyoneering rope). Anybody use this rope? Comment much appreciated. Thanks.
Teuns Kok South Africa
Steve Brezovec
Sweet!
> —–Original Message—– > From: rcwildone [mailto:rcwildone@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 2:26 PM > To: Yahoo Canyons Group
Subject: Re: [from Canyons Group] Beal Cilaos rope
> Yep. I bought three or four Beal canyoning ropes in Europe three > years ago. None of them made it through a single season. Polyester > sheath over polypropylene core. Loose sheath weave resulted in very > poor abrasion resistance. Tensile strength (around 4,000 lbs ?) much > too low to pass NFPA standars in U.S. They did float nice though.
I still have a few pieces laying around that we use in our courses if > you want some, Steve.
Rich
> I believe this may be the polypro rope Rich has a piece of last > year. Low
tensile strength because of the polypro core (no single strand > raps). Seems
like the sheath wasn’t very durable either.
In Beals defense, I think this was an attempt at designing a rope > that did
not absorb water.
Charly]
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rcwildone
Yep. I bought three or four Beal canyoning ropes in Europe three years ago. None of them made it through a single season. Polyester sheath over polypropylene core. Loose sheath weave resulted in very poor abrasion resistance. Tensile strength (around 4,000 lbs ?) much too low to pass NFPA standars in U.S. They did float nice though.
I still have a few pieces laying around that we use in our courses if you want some, Steve.
Rich
> I believe this may be the polypro rope Rich has a piece of last year. Low > tensile strength because of the polypro core (no single strand raps). Seems > like the sheath wasn’t very durable either.
In Beals defense, I think this was an attempt at designing a rope that did > not absorb water.
Charly]
Steve Brezovec
It’d be nice to have a short 10′-15′ section of this rope for tieing to your pack for lowering, pack tossing, and such. I was wishing the one on my pack this weekend wasn’t so water-absorbent.
> —–Original Message—– > From: Charly Oliver [mailto:coliver@trango.com] > Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 10:02 AM > To: Yahoo Canyons Group
Subject: RE: [from Canyons Group] Beal Cilaos rope
> I believe this may be the polypro rope Rich has a piece of > last year. Low > tensile strength because of the polypro core (no single > strand raps). Seems > like the sheath wasn’t very durable either.
In Beals defense, I think this was an attempt at designing a > rope that did > not absorb water.
Charly > —–Original Message—– > From: valbonne [mailto:valbonne_2000@yahoo.fr] > Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 9:59 AM > To: Yahoo Canyons Group
Subject: Re: [from Canyons Group] Beal Cilaos rope
> The cilaos rope has been known since 4 years in france > and It has been completely abandoned by most of the > canyonneer here because of it’s (very) poor > parformance in abrasion. This rope is actually > considered as dangerous when used in single. > Jerome ROUX – Canyoning Instructor for French > Canyoning Association
— Christopher Jain cjain1000@yahoo.com> a écrit : >
Charly Oliver
I believe this may be the polypro rope Rich has a piece of last year. Low tensile strength because of the polypro core (no single strand raps). Seems like the sheath wasn’t very durable either.
In Beals defense, I think this was an attempt at designing a rope that did not absorb water.
Charly —–Original Message—– From: valbonne [mailto:valbonne_2000@yahoo.fr] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 9:59 AM To: Yahoo Canyons Group Subject: Re: [from Canyons Group] Beal Cilaos rope
The cilaos rope has been known since 4 years in france and It has been completely abandoned by most of the canyonneer here because of it’s (very) poor parformance in abrasion. This rope is actually considered as dangerous when used in single. Jerome ROUX – Canyoning Instructor for French Canyoning Association
— Christopher Jain cjain1000@yahoo.com> a écrit :
I too have been interested in this rope. I’m somewhat bothered by the fact that the instructions say to use it doubled only…
Teuns Kok wrote:I am considering buying the Beal Cilaos rope, 9.5mm by 60m (a Beal
canyoneering rope). Anybody use this rope? Comment much appreciated.
Thanks.
Teuns Kok
South Africa
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valbonne
The cilaos rope has been known since 4 years in france and It has been completely abandoned by most of the canyonneer here because of it’s (very) poor parformance in abrasion. This rope is actually considered as dangerous when used in single. Jerome ROUX – Canyoning Instructor for French Canyoning Association
— Christopher Jain cjain1000@yahoo.com> a écrit :
I too have been interested in this rope. I’m somewhat bothered by the fact that the instructions say to use it doubled only…
Teuns Kok wrote:I am considering buying the Beal Cilaos rope, 9.5mm by 60m (a Beal
canyoneering rope). Anybody use this rope? Comment much appreciated.
Thanks.
Teuns Kok
South Africa
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Christopher Jain
I too have been interested in this rope. I’m somewhat bothered by the fact that the instructions say to use it doubled only… Teuns Kok wrote:I am considering buying the Beal Cilaos rope, 9.5mm by 60m (a Beal canyoneering rope). Anybody use this rope? Comment much appreciated. Thanks.
Teuns Kok South Africa
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