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Buckskin Gulch Conditions and Recommendations

I’ve been lurking on this list for several years after taking a three day canyoneering course from Nick at ZAC. Unfortunately,I have not been able to do much in terms of canyons since then.

I’m currently planning a family trip to Buckskin Gulch and North Rim GC for the week of June 20. The plan is to spend three days in Buckskin Gulch/Paria, then another two at GC with a extra day floating around. My thought for Buckskin was to hike in from Wire Pass and camp at the Confluence for two nights. Spend the second day hiking down Paria Canyon and back to the Confluence, then get up early on the third day and hike out to White House. This is with my family (wife, 13 year old son, 11 year old daughter).

Have not thought too much beyond that, though we have reservations at the GC North Rim campsite for 3 nights.

So with that, I was looking for any suggestions or recommendations from folks who know the area.

1) Any comments on my Buckskin/Paria plan? Is it worth the day going down the Paria (I am assuming it is)? Any sugegstions for how far down to go? (I may have to fight my kids to go too far..) 2) Any other things we should explore in the area? Water Hole canyon sounded pretty good and worth an explore. I don’t have the equipment for anything technical. 3) Any suggestions for the North Rim. Sounds like some good day hikes along the rim, not sure if it is worth going down into the canyon or not.

Also, not sure if anyone knows the conditions in Buckskin Gulch. Talking to the ranger, it sounds like it is not too muddy. Any idea what springs are running?

Lastly, any recommendations or suggestions for canyon backpacking? Planning on carrying lots of water, a bucket if needed to let river water settle (as a backup to spring water), and running shoes. Not sure if there are any secrets that I should know about.

Feel free to e-mail directly or on the list.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Dave Pechner San Jose, CA

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AuthorDave Pechner
DateJune 11, 2010
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  • Hi Dave

    A mid July day back in 1988, From the North Rim, I hiked down to Ribbon Falls and up to the upper falls and spent a lovely afternoon. there. I recall that it had what we called 4 different rooms. A cold room we had to climb into, where the falls came down. The cool room, just beyond, where spray from the falls misted around us. Fifteen feet beyond, was the warm room, where we delighted in sun. And finally, just beyond, a LARGE hot room, that felt like a sauna. Our friend the Perl, gave us rendition of a movie he had seen…I think it was called The Emerald Forest, right along side a ruin?

    Such fine memories can distort the realities. Not sure how long a day it is and I know it would be a hot hike up a hill that would not be trivial either. Still with a super early start and an early to mid evening exit up, the idea of moving back and forth between the cold, cool, warm and hot rooms, makes me smile. YMMV Ram

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “TomJones” wrote:

    Welcome to the group, Dave.

    Your ladies might appreciate copious quantities of high-quality hand lotion, after a day in the alkaline mud and water. I know my skin appreciates it.

    We had a couple thunderstorms come through the area today, so things might have changed.

    Tom

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, Dave Pechner wrote:

    I’ve been lurking on this list for several years after taking a three

    day canyoneering course from Nick at ZAC. Unfortunately,I have not

    been able to do much in terms of canyons since then.

    I’m currently planning a family trip to Buckskin Gulch and North Rim GC

    for the week of June 20. The plan is to spend three days in Buckskin

    Gulch/Paria, then another two at GC with a extra day floating around.

    My thought for Buckskin was to hike in from Wire Pass and camp at the

    Confluence for two nights. Spend the second day hiking down Paria

    Canyon and back to the Confluence, then get up early on the third day

    and hike out to White House. This is with my family (wife, 13 year old

    son, 11 year old daughter).

    Have not thought too much beyond that, though we have reservations at

    the GC North Rim campsite for 3 nights.

    So with that, I was looking for any suggestions or recommendations from

    folks who know the area.

    1) Any comments on my Buckskin/Paria plan? Is it worth the day going

    down the Paria (I am assuming it is)? Any sugegstions for how far down

    to go? (I may have to fight my kids to go too far..)

    2) Any other things we should explore in the area? Water Hole canyon

    sounded pretty good and worth an explore. I don’t have the equipment

    for anything technical.

    3) Any suggestions for the North Rim. Sounds like some good day hikes

    along the rim, not sure if it is worth going down into the canyon or not.

    Also, not sure if anyone knows the conditions in Buckskin Gulch.

    Talking to the ranger, it sounds like it is not too muddy. Any idea

    what springs are running?

    Lastly, any recommendations or suggestions for canyon backpacking?

    Planning on carrying lots of water, a bucket if needed to let river

    water settle (as a backup to spring water), and running shoes. Not sure

    if there are any secrets that I should know about.

    Feel free to e-mail directly or on the list.

    Thanks in advance for any help.

    Dave Pechner

    San Jose, CA

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  • TomJones

    Welcome to the group, Dave.

    Your ladies might appreciate copious quantities of high-quality hand lotion, after a day in the alkaline mud and water. I know my skin appreciates it.

    We had a couple thunderstorms come through the area today, so things might have changed.

    Tom

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, Dave Pechner wrote:

    I’ve been lurking on this list for several years after taking a three > day canyoneering course from Nick at ZAC. Unfortunately,I have not > been able to do much in terms of canyons since then.

    I’m currently planning a family trip to Buckskin Gulch and North Rim GC > for the week of June 20. The plan is to spend three days in Buckskin > Gulch/Paria, then another two at GC with a extra day floating around. > My thought for Buckskin was to hike in from Wire Pass and camp at the > Confluence for two nights. Spend the second day hiking down Paria > Canyon and back to the Confluence, then get up early on the third day > and hike out to White House. This is with my family (wife, 13 year old > son, 11 year old daughter).

    Have not thought too much beyond that, though we have reservations at > the GC North Rim campsite for 3 nights.

    So with that, I was looking for any suggestions or recommendations from > folks who know the area.

    1) Any comments on my Buckskin/Paria plan? Is it worth the day going > down the Paria (I am assuming it is)? Any sugegstions for how far down > to go? (I may have to fight my kids to go too far..) > 2) Any other things we should explore in the area? Water Hole canyon > sounded pretty good and worth an explore. I don’t have the equipment > for anything technical. > 3) Any suggestions for the North Rim. Sounds like some good day hikes > along the rim, not sure if it is worth going down into the canyon or not.

    Also, not sure if anyone knows the conditions in Buckskin Gulch. > Talking to the ranger, it sounds like it is not too muddy. Any idea > what springs are running?

    Lastly, any recommendations or suggestions for canyon backpacking? > Planning on carrying lots of water, a bucket if needed to let river > water settle (as a backup to spring water), and running shoes. Not sure > if there are any secrets that I should know about.

    Feel free to e-mail directly or on the list.

    Thanks in advance for any help.

    Dave Pechner > San Jose, CA >