Hoping this stays off topic to our community – but is it safer to jump holding your nose while jumping, or attempt to deploy nose plugs on a single rope rap?
Rob
Yahoo Canyons Group
Hoping this stays off topic to our community – but is it safer to jump holding your nose while jumping, or attempt to deploy nose plugs on a single rope rap?
Rob
WB
OK, that makes sense. I had never heard of Naegleria infecting the GI tract before. I misunderstood you earlier to be saying that Naegleria is a common infection of the GI tract.
-Bill
On Oct 1, 2007, at 11:12 AM, orsdoc wrote:
> — >
> This beastie is also responsible for normal GI infections?
We are really talking about two different but related bugs here. In > the GI tract it is ameoba hystolytica (I think) while this one is > ameoba Naegleria Fowleri
orsdoc
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This beastie is also responsible for normal GI infections?
We are really talking about two different but related bugs here. In the GI tract it is ameoba hystolytica (I think) while this one is ameoba Naegleria Fowleri
How easy is it to catch a GI infection? Pretty easy being that approximately 10% of the worlds population has it.
Amoebic Dysentery – Overview (copied from somewhere on the web not my work)
It is also known as Amoebiasis or Traveller’s Diarrhoea,.
It is the infection of the large intestine, sometimes involving the liver. It causes diarrhoea among other symptoms.
Frequently affects people whose hygiene is poor.
Travellers to countries with poor sanitation are at greater risk of contracting the disease (hence known as traveller’s diarrhoea).
It can affect any one young or old of either sex.
About 10% of the world’s population is infected with amoebas, particularly people who live in
Mexico India Central America South America Africa Tropical areas of Asia.
In industrialized countries, amoebiasis is very common among recent immigrants and travellers who visit countries where amoebas are prevalent.
Do you see much of it? I’m an orthopedic surgeon. I probably wouldn’t recognize it if I did see it and I don’t think you could get past the front desk if you call in and say you have GI or CNS symptoms instead of knee pain.
Mark
A.J.
> alarmist article…note that only 127 cases of infection have been > recorded worldwide.
Alarmist, unless you are one of those 127 cases…
WB
I was only aware of the dangerous form of infection and only used rare in the sense of it’s rare to catch although usually terminal once you do. It was poorly worded.
This beastie is also responsible for normal GI infections? How easy is it to catch a GI infection? Is it transmissible during the active infection and afterwards? Do you see much of it?
-Bill
-Bill
On Sep 30, 2007, at 8:08 PM, orsdoc wrote:
> — In Yahoo Canyons Group, WB wrote: >
> It’s really rare to die from this infection.
While that may be true of a GI tract infection (and they can be very > bad) I don’t think that there is a good treatment for the type that > enter through the nasal cavity–olfactory nerves. These people > usually die pretty quickly. It is very rare.
http://www.sltrib.com//ci_7036344?IADID=Search-www.sltrib.com-
http://www.sltrib.com
~tanya
Why am I awake at 1:37 in the morning!?!?!?!
Nightmare of Hank’s brain being eaten by Brain Eating Bugs.
He was #128!
> On Sep 30, 2007, at 1:51 PM, hank moon wrote:
> alarmist article…note that only 127 cases of infection have been
recorded worldwide.
>
orsdoc
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, WB wrote:
It’s really rare to die from this infection.
While that may be true of a GI tract infection (and they can be very bad) I don’t think that there is a good treatment for the type that enter through the nasal cavity–olfactory nerves. These people usually die pretty quickly. It is very rare.
http://www.sltrib.com//ci_7036344?IADID=Search-www.sltrib.com-www.sltrib.com
WB
It’s really rare to die from this infection. You are at slightly greater risk in warm and hot springs with dirt or sediments (possibly more hospitable for the amoeba) and children are at greater risk due to the ease of the organism getting to their brain. But as Hank points out it’s really rare. Some hot springs are posted because of past infection(s) but I’m not aware that the those hot springs have produced repeated infections over long periods of time (10-20 years). The organism is not particularly rare and can be found many places but usually does not infect people.
All in all, I’d use caution especially about getting warmer water in the nose or mouth with children but there are far greater dangers out there.
-Bill
On Sep 30, 2007, at 1:51 PM, hank moon wrote:
> alarmist article…note that only 127 cases of infection have been > recorded worldwide. >
hank moon
alarmist article…note that only 127 cases of infection have been recorded worldwide.
more info: http://www.doh.state.fl.us/communications/office/pressreleases/2007/9.05.07AmoebEnceph.pdf
p.s. warning signs for these amoebas have been posted for years at hot springs below Hoover Dam…or so I’ve heard.
bruce silliman
Gee Rob, you are the bearer of such good news. As to the question, blow your nose immediately after surfacing. That should get those nasty little amoebas out of your nasal track.
bruce from bryce
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