Just in town for a few minutes without my glasses. Choprock was low water, but we were happy for our 6/3 mm minimums. The sand dams are set, but no water behind them. Canyon in PG conditions now. Neon had some water in the mid sectiomn, but the Triborough Bridges were swims. Low down, quite dry. West Baker was mostly dry. East Baker is still hard. The travel on the river is easier than ib years/ Thanks to Ranger Bill. Ram
Yahoo Canyons Group
Anton Solovyev
Anton Solovyev wrote: > This past weekend. Scorpion East and Sleepy Hollow had no water except > for the bottoms of a few deepest potholes.
The perennial sections of canyons are flowing as usual (Coyote, Sleepy > Hollow, Calf Creek).
There is a very small amount of cedar gnats (?) but they don’t seem to > be biting nor are a nuisance.
Hole In The Rock Road is in great condition at least to Chimney Rock > turn off.
P.S. Some cow tracks past the fence in Coyote and Sleepy Hollow, what’s > up with that? Chimney Rock campsite, what a cow mess >
Oh, and forgot to mention: lots of small rattle snakes: 3 in SH and 1 in Scorpion.
—
Anton Solovyev
Anton Solovyev
This past weekend. Scorpion East and Sleepy Hollow had no water except for the bottoms of a few deepest potholes.
The perennial sections of canyons are flowing as usual (Coyote, Sleepy Hollow, Calf Creek).
There is a very small amount of cedar gnats (?) but they don’t seem to be biting nor are a nuisance.
Hole In The Rock Road is in great condition at least to Chimney Rock turn off.
P.S. Some cow tracks past the fence in Coyote and Sleepy Hollow, what’s up with that? Chimney Rock campsite, what a cow mess
—
Anton Solovyev
ratagonia
Ram from Tom’s desk, on my way to Glen canyon…..Conditions in Escalante are very wet. Wet suits worn every day for last 2 weeks. Kaleidoscope/Chop bombay was difficult, but not extreme. Neon and the Bakers very wet. Mud only drying now around the Escalante from the storm 2 weeks back. Road conditions to Egypt 4X4 but reasonable. HITR Road washboarded and dusty. Pictures upon return in early November. Ram PS Wyo Dave is also a moderator on this group and perhaps its most attentive. Thanks Dave.
Randi
Hi Amie, It was so nice to see you & Rick the other day! Thank you so much for your hospitality after we barged in on you guys unexpectedly. Thanks for allowing us to commandeer your front yard for hours – the shade and chairs were much appreciated. –  As for the bugs in Death Hollow they were practical non-existent. I heard one Mosquito buzzing around briefly on the morning of the first night’s camp out, and there were so no-seeums flitting around back at the cars once we’d hiked out but other than that nada. The bug nets we’d so endearingly decorated weren’t needed for anything but entertainment. Death Hollow was spectacular and the weather was perfect! I almost didn’t make the trek due to the bug reports. Now my only regret is that I didn’t get to stay longer!
— On Fri, 6/24/11, excursionsofescalante rick@excursionsofescalante.com> wrote:
From: excursionsofescalante rick@excursionsofescalante.com> Subject: [from Canyons Group] Escalante Conditions To: Yahoo Canyons Group Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 11:04 AM
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Egypt canyons are dry. Bugs are bad. Head nets recommended. There have been quite a few groups hiking the main drainage of Death Hollow and the report is that the bugs there are not too bad. Windy today, hoping it will help keep the bugs at bay out on the desert. Cheers, Amie
excursionsofescalante
Egypt canyons are dry. Bugs are bad. Head nets recommended. There have been quite a few groups hiking the main drainage of Death Hollow and the report is that the bugs there are not too bad. Windy today, hoping it will help keep the bugs at bay out on the desert. Cheers, Amie
phil
Yeah, Dry Fork is for Peakaboo and Spooky. I think it is between 25-26 miles out on the road. Road could change alot in that time but was good this week. Hope the trip turns out well.
Phillip
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, Louis Johnson wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for the report. Headed out to escalante in may. Very good news about > HITRR. We could not make it past egypt. Is Dry Fork where you hook up with > Peak-a-boo an Spooky? I want to make it out to 40 mile canyon, but I think that > is much further than Dry Fork…
Louis
________________________________ > From: phil Subject: [from Canyons Group] Escalante Conditions
> Was out in the Escalante region for four days. Just got back. Quick updates:
1) Ice on steep north faces in the canyons between the town and the highway 12 > bridge. (we were camped on the Micro Death road (67 I believe)
2) Pine Box still frozen solid at the bottom. Still tons of snow in the canyon.
3) Hole-In-The-Rock Road is in amazing condition all the way to Dry Fork > trailhead. Never driven it in such smooth conditions.
4) Big fire to the south of the road between Cedar Wash and the highway. Anyone > have any ideas what started it? Look structural or petro oriented.
Phillip
>
Louis Johnson
Hi,
Thanks for the report. Headed out to escalante in may. Very good news about HITRR. We could not make it past egypt. Is Dry Fork where you hook up with Peak-a-boo an Spooky? I want to make it out to 40 mile canyon, but I think that is much further than Dry Fork…
Louis
________________________________ From: phil Happyfeet00@Hotmail.com> To: Yahoo Canyons Group Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 8:35:23 PM Subject: [from Canyons Group] Escalante Conditions
Was out in the Escalante region for four days. Just got back. Quick updates:
1) Ice on steep north faces in the canyons between the town and the highway 12 bridge. (we were camped on the Micro Death road (67 I believe)
2) Pine Box still frozen solid at the bottom. Still tons of snow in the canyon.
3) Hole-In-The-Rock Road is in amazing condition all the way to Dry Fork trailhead. Never driven it in such smooth conditions.
4) Big fire to the south of the road between Cedar Wash and the highway. Anyone have any ideas what started it? Look structural or petro oriented.
Phillip
phil
Was out in the Escalante region for four days. Just got back. Quick updates:
1) Ice on steep north faces in the canyons between the town and the highway 12 bridge. (we were camped on the Micro Death road (67 I believe)
2) Pine Box still frozen solid at the bottom. Still tons of snow in the canyon.
3) Hole-In-The-Rock Road is in amazing condition all the way to Dry Fork trailhead. Never driven it in such smooth conditions.
4) Big fire to the south of the road between Cedar Wash and the highway. Anyone have any ideas what started it? Look structural or petro oriented.
Phillip
RAM
We too pulled lots of critters out of water in the last 3 weeks….
From Rick Canyons have quite a bit of water these days obviously. Egypt road isn’t too bad. High clearance recommended. Pulled quite a few critters out of the canyons lately, 3 tarantulas, little rattler and a gopher snake plus one insane jackrabbit. Seem cold (ish) for these guys to be cruising around. Anyhow, hope to see you soon.
Cheers,
Rick
http://www.excursionsofescalante.com
1-800-U-EXPLORE(839-7567)
TomJones
From the Monument Roads Report September 24, 2010:
Here is an updated road report – apparently there is a large “lake” on the Hole in the Rock Road near Rat Seep Hollow just south of the county line south of Egypt Road making the road impassable at that point until it dries out. Check with the Escalante Visitor Center for the latest updates on these conditions.
Tom
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, Louis Johnson wrote:
just tried to go to 40 mile creek on Hole-in-the-Rock. We have a chevy tahoe, > and we could not make it much past egypt turnoff. It was all due to yesterday’s > rain. We will try again in a few days.
________________________________ > From: kmatjhwy Subject: [from Canyons Group] Re: Escalante Conditions
> Tom, > Thanks for the Info! I indeed do have Steve Allen’s book and have > been to the Escalante many times since 1985. It is just the lower > parts of the Escalante that have never been in, that is above Steven’s. I am > well aware of all the brush along the river now days. > But I usually just go down the river taking my time and exploring all > the canyons along the way. Am wondering has much changed thru the > summer? My favorite in the past has been around the Choprock area > where I have hung out for days. But really want to see that lower > area also. Thanks Again! KM
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “TomJones” wrote:
Generally, the river banks of the Escalante are considered one of the least
desirable places to hike, in the Escalante area. The river itself is sinuous,
snaking from bank to bank, and providing just enough sub-irrigation to build a
prodigious jungle of tamarisk, willow and Russian Olive across the floodplain,
making travel down the floodplain slow, tedious, annoying, bug-infested and, in
the summer, sweltering hot. With few views because you are in the jungle. In
the past, there was enough cow action to keep some passages open, which made
travel better though often added more unpleasantness, but more recently the cows
are in many places removed or lessened and they no longer maintain the trails.
Hiker traffic in some places is sufficient to keep the jungle at bay, but not in
most places.
Thus, in looking at exploring the area, while the run of the Escalante River
provides structure and a grasping point, I think you will be disappointed if you
attempt to use that as the backbone of your travels.
I would start with Steve Allen’s Escalante book (often available on eBay) and
do some figuring from there. It is a dense book, and requires some work with
the maps to figure out what EXACTLY to do, but it is a treasure trove of
adventure.
As a starting point, I can recommend Phipps Wash and Arch.
http://canyoneeringusa.com/utah/esca/phipps.htm
> Tom
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “kmatjhwy” wrote:
Thanks Ram for replying. Now you asked on which areas I would be
> particularly interested in. Also I have seen the threads as
> concerning Choprock and the Neon Canyons area. Now I would probably
> be starting with going down Harris to the Escalante and Silver Falls
> then just on downstream. I might though start at the road and bridge
> at Calf Creek and work my way down the drainage. Guess I am …
>
Louis Johnson
just tried to go to 40 mile creek on Hole-in-the-Rock. We have a chevy tahoe, and we could not make it much past egypt turnoff. It was all due to yesterday’s rain. We will try again in a few days.
________________________________ From: kmatjhwy kmatjhwy@yahoo.com> To: Yahoo Canyons Group Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 12:32:41 PM Subject: [from Canyons Group] Re: Escalante Conditions
Tom, Thanks for the Info! I indeed do have Steve Allen’s book and have been to the Escalante many times since 1985. It is just the lower parts of the Escalante that have never been in, that is above Steven’s. I am well aware of all the brush along the river now days. But I usually just go down the river taking my time and exploring all the canyons along the way. Am wondering has much changed thru the summer? My favorite in the past has been around the Choprock area where I have hung out for days. But really want to see that lower area also. Thanks Again! KM
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “TomJones” wrote:
Generally, the river banks of the Escalante are considered one of the least >desirable places to hike, in the Escalante area. The river itself is sinuous, >snaking from bank to bank, and providing just enough sub-irrigation to build a >prodigious jungle of tamarisk, willow and Russian Olive across the floodplain, >making travel down the floodplain slow, tedious, annoying, bug-infested and, in >the summer, sweltering hot. With few views because you are in the jungle. In >the past, there was enough cow action to keep some passages open, which made >travel better though often added more unpleasantness, but more recently the cows >are in many places removed or lessened and they no longer maintain the trails. >Hiker traffic in some places is sufficient to keep the jungle at bay, but not in >most places.
Thus, in looking at exploring the area, while the run of the Escalante River >provides structure and a grasping point, I think you will be disappointed if you >attempt to use that as the backbone of your travels.
I would start with Steve Allen’s Escalante book (often available on eBay) and >do some figuring from there. It is a dense book, and requires some work with >the maps to figure out what EXACTLY to do, but it is a treasure trove of >adventure.
As a starting point, I can recommend Phipps Wash and Arch.
http://canyoneeringusa.com/utah/esca/phipps.htm
> Tom
> — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “kmatjhwy” wrote:
Thanks Ram for replying. Now you asked on which areas I would be
particularly interested in. Also I have seen the threads as
concerning Choprock and the Neon Canyons area. Now I would probably
be starting with going down Harris to the Escalante and Silver Falls
then just on downstream. I might though start at the road and bridge
at Calf Creek and work my way down the drainage. Guess I am … >
Nick
I am usually not interested in a hike down the escalante. I usually want to get in and out, back to the table land. But my last visit to Neon and Ringtail a couple of weeks ago was suprisingly easy once I got to the river. From the floods this summer there are great big wide swaths of vegitationless washes for easy travel. We made it from Neon to Ringtail in about 15 minutes. There was some difficulty traveling through the river though, a couple of sections of wood debris piles (some of which were russian oilve) were choking the river. Have a fun trip!
Nick
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “kmatjhwy” wrote:
Ram, > Thanks for the Info! I am real aware that the Russian Olive has > been cleared up to at least Choprock. But I have been down the > Escalante many times before when it was infested with the Russian > Olive and know how it is or was. And as for the lower Escalante > from Fold to Steven’s, it is this area that am really interested in > also. I personally prefer to travel along the river then the Overland > trail with just taking my time and enjoy. It is that lower Escalante > above Steven’s and below the Moody’s that just have never seen. KM
> — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
Be aware that the river has been cleared of Russian Olive only up to or toward Choprock Canyon. The river can be more difficult to pass thru above that. There is much excellent info in Steve Allen’s Canyoneering 3, including how to travel the overland trail which avoids much of the thorny Olive problems.
The areas to the south sound like a winner. Add Steven’s and the Shofer/Ichabod/Hydra/Beryl area too.
As for the cows, I remember that the fences denying access (when functional) were protecting the Glen Canyon National Recreation areas most. Again, in the southern reaches of the Escalante River. Anyone know the exact regulations?
R
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “kmatjhwy” wrote:
Thanks Ram for replying. Now you asked on which areas I would be
> particularly interested in. Also I have seen the threads as
> concerning Choprock and the Neon Canyons area. Now I would probably
> be starting with going down Harris to the Escalante and Silver Falls
> then just on downstream. I might though start at the road and bridge
> at Calf Creek and work my way down the drainage. Guess I am espicelly
> interested in the area from Harris Wash down to Choprock and Neon.
> And the area of the Moody’s with Fold – Scorpion – Georgia Camp
> Canyons Area further south. Also another question is that are there
> any cows in the canyons?. The last time that I was there spring
> of ’09 , there was all of these cows with cow pies up and down the
> canyons which was so disgusting to see. Am thinking if indeed go soon
> to the Escalante, it would be till the Thanksgiving time period. Am
> sooooo missing the redrock canyon country and do think I need a good
> canyon fix. Thanks for the info. KM
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
It has been a busy summer flood wise, but the canyons are made to be flooded through, so while some roads are rougher and anchors have needed rebuilding, we know of nothing extraordinary that has happened. Even Kaleidoscope/Choprock being in hard conditions (more details later) can and should be seen as normal cycles. Getting down Hole in the Rock and probably the Moody-Silver Falls area is just rougher and slower. Being there for several months, you will encounter several more cycles, if not the summer monsoon conditions. Any areas you are particularly interested in? When the time comes, we will be asking you the conditions. 😉
More road information can be found here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/message/57851
> Ram
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “kmatjhwy” wrote:
Now am wondering for those that might know in just what are the current
> conditions are for the Escalante and region. I live up here in Wyoming.
> Am thinking of maybe soon heading to the Escalante and the area for a
> couple of months of some active wandering and living in the Escalante
> backcountry. Am espicelly interested in the middle and lower sections
> from Harris Wash and on south. How has the summer been here in the
> area? I heard from someone that there has been some summer flash floods
> in the area. Were these flash floods region wide extensive and did they
> create many changes in the canyons? Thanks for those that might be of help.
>
kmatjhwy
Tom, Thanks for the Info! I indeed do have Steve Allen’s book and have been to the Escalante many times since 1985. It is just the lower parts of the Escalante that have never been in, that is above Steven’s. I am well aware of all the brush along the river now days. But I usually just go down the river taking my time and exploring all the canyons along the way. Am wondering has much changed thru the summer? My favorite in the past has been around the Choprock area where I have hung out for days. But really want to see that lower area also. Thanks Again! KM
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “TomJones” wrote:
Generally, the river banks of the Escalante are considered one of the least desirable places to hike, in the Escalante area. The river itself is sinuous, snaking from bank to bank, and providing just enough sub-irrigation to build a prodigious jungle of tamarisk, willow and Russian Olive across the floodplain, making travel down the floodplain slow, tedious, annoying, bug-infested and, in the summer, sweltering hot. With few views because you are in the jungle. In the past, there was enough cow action to keep some passages open, which made travel better though often added more unpleasantness, but more recently the cows are in many places removed or lessened and they no longer maintain the trails. Hiker traffic in some places is sufficient to keep the jungle at bay, but not in most places.
Thus, in looking at exploring the area, while the run of the Escalante River provides structure and a grasping point, I think you will be disappointed if you attempt to use that as the backbone of your travels.
I would start with Steve Allen’s Escalante book (often available on eBay) and do some figuring from there. It is a dense book, and requires some work with the maps to figure out what EXACTLY to do, but it is a treasure trove of adventure.
As a starting point, I can recommend Phipps Wash and Arch.
http://canyoneeringusa.com/utah/esca/phipps.htm
> Tom
> — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “kmatjhwy” wrote:
Thanks Ram for replying. Now you asked on which areas I would be
particularly interested in. Also I have seen the threads as
concerning Choprock and the Neon Canyons area. Now I would probably
be starting with going down Harris to the Escalante and Silver Falls
then just on downstream. I might though start at the road and bridge
at Calf Creek and work my way down the drainage. Guess I am … >
kmatjhwy
Ram, Thanks for the Info! I am real aware that the Russian Olive has been cleared up to at least Choprock. But I have been down the Escalante many times before when it was infested with the Russian Olive and know how it is or was. And as for the lower Escalante from Fold to Steven’s, it is this area that am really interested in also. I personally prefer to travel along the river then the Overland trail with just taking my time and enjoy. It is that lower Escalante above Steven’s and below the Moody’s that just have never seen. KM
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
Be aware that the river has been cleared of Russian Olive only up to or toward Choprock Canyon. The river can be more difficult to pass thru above that. There is much excellent info in Steve Allen’s Canyoneering 3, including how to travel the overland trail which avoids much of the thorny Olive problems.
The areas to the south sound like a winner. Add Steven’s and the Shofer/Ichabod/Hydra/Beryl area too.
As for the cows, I remember that the fences denying access (when functional) were protecting the Glen Canyon National Recreation areas most. Again, in the southern reaches of the Escalante River. Anyone know the exact regulations? > R
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “kmatjhwy” wrote:
Thanks Ram for replying. Now you asked on which areas I would be
particularly interested in. Also I have seen the threads as
concerning Choprock and the Neon Canyons area. Now I would probably
be starting with going down Harris to the Escalante and Silver Falls
then just on downstream. I might though start at the road and bridge
at Calf Creek and work my way down the drainage. Guess I am espicelly
interested in the area from Harris Wash down to Choprock and Neon.
And the area of the Moody’s with Fold – Scorpion – Georgia Camp
Canyons Area further south. Also another question is that are there
any cows in the canyons?. The last time that I was there spring
of ’09 , there was all of these cows with cow pies up and down the
canyons which was so disgusting to see. Am thinking if indeed go soon
to the Escalante, it would be till the Thanksgiving time period. Am
sooooo missing the redrock canyon country and do think I need a good
canyon fix. Thanks for the info. KM
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
It has been a busy summer flood wise, but the canyons are made to be flooded through, so while some roads are rougher and anchors have needed rebuilding, we know of nothing extraordinary that has happened. Even Kaleidoscope/Choprock being in hard conditions (more details later) can and should be seen as normal cycles. Getting down Hole in the Rock and probably the Moody-Silver Falls area is just rougher and slower. Being there for several months, you will encounter several more cycles, if not the summer monsoon conditions. Any areas you are particularly interested in? When the time comes, we will be asking you the conditions. 😉
> More road information can be found here
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/message/57851
Ram
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “kmatjhwy” wrote:
Now am wondering for those that might know in just what are the current
conditions are for the Escalante and region. I live up here in Wyoming.
Am thinking of maybe soon heading to the Escalante and the area for a
couple of months of some active wandering and living in the Escalante
backcountry. Am espicelly interested in the middle and lower sections
from Harris Wash and on south. How has the summer been here in the
area? I heard from someone that there has been some summer flash floods
in the area. Were these flash floods region wide extensive and did they
create many changes in the canyons? Thanks for those that might be of help.
TomJones
Generally, the river banks of the Escalante are considered one of the least desirable places to hike, in the Escalante area. The river itself is sinuous, snaking from bank to bank, and providing just enough sub-irrigation to build a prodigious jungle of tamarisk, willow and Russian Olive across the floodplain, making travel down the floodplain slow, tedious, annoying, bug-infested and, in the summer, sweltering hot. With few views because you are in the jungle. In the past, there was enough cow action to keep some passages open, which made travel better though often added more unpleasantness, but more recently the cows are in many places removed or lessened and they no longer maintain the trails. Hiker traffic in some places is sufficient to keep the jungle at bay, but not in most places.
Thus, in looking at exploring the area, while the run of the Escalante River provides structure and a grasping point, I think you will be disappointed if you attempt to use that as the backbone of your travels.
I would start with Steve Allen’s Escalante book (often available on eBay) and do some figuring from there. It is a dense book, and requires some work with the maps to figure out what EXACTLY to do, but it is a treasure trove of adventure.
As a starting point, I can recommend Phipps Wash and Arch.
http://canyoneeringusa.com/utah/esca/phipps.htm
Tom
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “kmatjhwy” wrote:
Thanks Ram for replying. Now you asked on which areas I would be > particularly interested in. Also I have seen the threads as > concerning Choprock and the Neon Canyons area. Now I would probably > be starting with going down Harris to the Escalante and Silver Falls > then just on downstream. I might though start at the road and bridge > at Calf Creek and work my way down the drainage. Guess I am …
RAM
Be aware that the river has been cleared of Russian Olive only up to or toward Choprock Canyon. The river can be more difficult to pass thru above that. There is much excellent info in Steve Allen’s Canyoneering 3, including how to travel the overland trail which avoids much of the thorny Olive problems.
The areas to the south sound like a winner. Add Steven’s and the Shofer/Ichabod/Hydra/Beryl area too.
As for the cows, I remember that the fences denying access (when functional) were protecting the Glen Canyon National Recreation areas most. Again, in the southern reaches of the Escalante River. Anyone know the exact regulations? R
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “kmatjhwy” wrote:
Thanks Ram for replying. Now you asked on which areas I would be > particularly interested in. Also I have seen the threads as > concerning Choprock and the Neon Canyons area. Now I would probably > be starting with going down Harris to the Escalante and Silver Falls > then just on downstream. I might though start at the road and bridge > at Calf Creek and work my way down the drainage. Guess I am espicelly > interested in the area from Harris Wash down to Choprock and Neon. > And the area of the Moody’s with Fold – Scorpion – Georgia Camp > Canyons Area further south. Also another question is that are there > any cows in the canyons?. The last time that I was there spring > of ’09 , there was all of these cows with cow pies up and down the > canyons which was so disgusting to see. Am thinking if indeed go soon > to the Escalante, it would be till the Thanksgiving time period. Am > sooooo missing the redrock canyon country and do think I need a good > canyon fix. Thanks for the info. KM
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
It has been a busy summer flood wise, but the canyons are made to be flooded through, so while some roads are rougher and anchors have needed rebuilding, we know of nothing extraordinary that has happened. Even Kaleidoscope/Choprock being in hard conditions (more details later) can and should be seen as normal cycles. Getting down Hole in the Rock and probably the Moody-Silver Falls area is just rougher and slower. Being there for several months, you will encounter several more cycles, if not the summer monsoon conditions. Any areas you are particularly interested in? When the time comes, we will be asking you the conditions. 😉
More road information can be found here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/message/57851
> Ram
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “kmatjhwy” wrote:
Now am wondering for those that might know in just what are the current
> conditions are for the Escalante and region. I live up here in Wyoming.
> Am thinking of maybe soon heading to the Escalante and the area for a
> couple of months of some active wandering and living in the Escalante
> backcountry. Am espicelly interested in the middle and lower sections
> from Harris Wash and on south. How has the summer been here in the
> area? I heard from someone that there has been some summer flash floods
> in the area. Were these flash floods region wide extensive and did they
> create many changes in the canyons? Thanks for those that might be of help.
kmatjhwy
Thanks Ram for replying. Now you asked on which areas I would be particularly interested in. Also I have seen the threads as concerning Choprock and the Neon Canyons area. Now I would probably be starting with going down Harris to the Escalante and Silver Falls then just on downstream. I might though start at the road and bridge at Calf Creek and work my way down the drainage. Guess I am espicelly interested in the area from Harris Wash down to Choprock and Neon. And the area of the Moody’s with Fold – Scorpion – Georgia Camp Canyons Area further south. Also another question is that are there any cows in the canyons?. The last time that I was there spring of ’09 , there was all of these cows with cow pies up and down the canyons which was so disgusting to see. Am thinking if indeed go soon to the Escalante, it would be till the Thanksgiving time period. Am sooooo missing the redrock canyon country and do think I need a good canyon fix. Thanks for the info. KM
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
It has been a busy summer flood wise, but the canyons are made to be flooded through, so while some roads are rougher and anchors have needed rebuilding, we know of nothing extraordinary that has happened. Even Kaleidoscope/Choprock being in hard conditions (more details later) can and should be seen as normal cycles. Getting down Hole in the Rock and probably the Moody-Silver Falls area is just rougher and slower. Being there for several months, you will encounter several more cycles, if not the summer monsoon conditions. Any areas you are particularly interested in? When the time comes, we will be asking you the conditions. 😉 > More road information can be found here > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/message/57851
Ram
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “kmatjhwy” wrote:
Now am wondering for those that might know in just what are the current
conditions are for the Escalante and region. I live up here in Wyoming.
Am thinking of maybe soon heading to the Escalante and the area for a
couple of months of some active wandering and living in the Escalante
backcountry. Am espicelly interested in the middle and lower sections
from Harris Wash and on south. How has the summer been here in the
area? I heard from someone that there has been some summer flash floods
in the area. Were these flash floods region wide extensive and did they
create many changes in the canyons? Thanks for those that might be of help.
>
RAM
It has been a busy summer flood wise, but the canyons are made to be flooded through, so while some roads are rougher and anchors have needed rebuilding, we know of nothing extraordinary that has happened. Even Kaleidoscope/Choprock being in hard conditions (more details later) can and should be seen as normal cycles. Getting down Hole in the Rock and probably the Moody-Silver Falls area is just rougher and slower. Being there for several months, you will encounter several more cycles, if not the summer monsoon conditions. Any areas you are particularly interested in? When the time comes, we will be asking you the conditions. 😉 More road information can be found here http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/message/57851 Ram
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “kmatjhwy” wrote:
Now am wondering for those that might know in just what are the current > conditions are for the Escalante and region. I live up here in Wyoming. > Am thinking of maybe soon heading to the Escalante and the area for a > couple of months of some active wandering and living in the Escalante > backcountry. Am espicelly interested in the middle and lower sections > from Harris Wash and on south. How has the summer been here in the > area? I heard from someone that there has been some summer flash floods > in the area. Were these flash floods region wide extensive and did they > create many changes in the canyons? Thanks for those that might be of help. >
kmatjhwy
Now am wondering for those that might know in just what are the current conditions are for the Escalante and region. I live up here in Wyoming. Am thinking of maybe soon heading to the Escalante and the area for a couple of months of some active wandering and living in the Escalante backcountry. Am espicelly interested in the middle and lower sections from Harris Wash and on south. How has the summer been here in the area? I heard from someone that there has been some summer flash floods in the area. Were these flash floods region wide extensive and did they create many changes in the canyons? Thanks for those that might be of help.