The new home page photo is of Charly Olvier aiding off Greg Hasecoster’s shoulders and eventually head, while ascending Quandary Canyon in April of 2002. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
Ascending Quandary from the bottom, bypassing the direct section, all the way to the top goes at 5.7 A0, with 4 5th class problems with not too bad exposure and is great sport. On this day, after topping out of Quandary, we returned part way and headed down Knotted Rope. With threatening skies, we found the potholes at the top of Knotted, frightening in very low AND scoured conditions. We reascended to the notch and descended Quandary. Pictures from that day. This one and the next 10 https://picasaweb.google.com/aramv14/April2002#5512304501975620994
Here is the album from March 18th 2009 when we ascended Quandary, up the bypass, dropped through the Direct, ascended the bypass, up over to Knotted Rope and down and out to our camp on the Muddy River. Fourteen year old Amy got in at 2 AM and we started at 6AM and finished in 11 hours I believe. Some do this loop in reverse, up Knotted and that is a little shorter, but I enjoy the climbing problems up Quandary a bit more. Classic fun in the Swell https://picasaweb.google.com/aramv14/QuandaryKnottedRope
RAM
Picture by Carol Petrelli from FreezeFest past. Just a reminder of how bad it can get and how lovely it was this year. Carol is signed up for my Picasa pictures, which gives me access to her’s. Hope she doesn’t mind that I snatched one and gave her billing 😉
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
Luke
Def a fun moment. Counting Black Hole Sally (R.I.P.) that makes 27. Ok 26 real people.
Thanks for sharing!
From: Yahoo Canyons Group [mailto:Yahoo Canyons Group] On Behalf Of RAM Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:02 PM To: Yahoo Canyons Group Subject: [from Canyons Group] Home Page Photo
The gangs all here. Random collection of people meeting and deciding to do the Black hole. January 1st, 2012
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
RAM
The gangs all here. Random collection of people meeting and deciding to do the Black hole. January 1st, 2012
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
Lori
You have not lived until you’ve seen Bare Elf on Christmas day in Death Valley.
Lori
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “Luke” wrote:
Most of my family has moved out of state so I thought I would share some > time with friends. What better way to spend Christmas than to be with > friends doing stuff you all like and being a bit silly at the same time. > Long story short I talked a few willing souls into joining me for a > leisurely day in Coffin on Christmas dressed as elves. Ok we had one > reindeer (will).
The day was perfect weather. No wind, no clouds and warm temps with highs > in the upper 60’s I think. Turned out to be a very good Christmas!
The picture was taken near the top out of the route into Coffin Canyon. The > intent was to have the salt flats in the back ground look like snow since > they are normally more white than that. Turns out there had been a lot of > wind in the preceding days covering the salt flats with dirt. So the white > was, well, not so white.
From left to right in the picture, Mike Cressman, Luke Galyan, Jay Snow, > Lori Curry, Abby Snow and Will. I do not know Will’s last name.
A late Merry Christmas to all.
Luke
Oh and Freeze Fest pics coming in a few days (gotta sort out the crap > first).
From: Yahoo Canyons Group [mailto:Yahoo Canyons Group] On Behalf Of > RAM > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:52 PM > To: Yahoo Canyons Group
Subject: [from Canyons Group] Home Page Photo
A photo from Luke near Coffin Canyon, Death Valley, Christmas 2011. Know > most of the folks, but perhaps someone there there can identify everyone and > any back story.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
> >
Luke
Most of my family has moved out of state so I thought I would share some time with friends. What better way to spend Christmas than to be with friends doing stuff you all like and being a bit silly at the same time. Long story short I talked a few willing souls into joining me for a leisurely day in Coffin on Christmas dressed as elves. Ok we had one reindeer (will).
The day was perfect weather. No wind, no clouds and warm temps with highs in the upper 60’s I think. Turned out to be a very good Christmas!
The picture was taken near the top out of the route into Coffin Canyon. The intent was to have the salt flats in the back ground look like snow since they are normally more white than that. Turns out there had been a lot of wind in the preceding days covering the salt flats with dirt. So the white was, well, not so white.
From left to right in the picture, Mike Cressman, Luke Galyan, Jay Snow, Lori Curry, Abby Snow and Will. I do not know Will’s last name.
A late Merry Christmas to all.
Luke
Oh and Freeze Fest pics coming in a few days (gotta sort out the crap first).
From: Yahoo Canyons Group [mailto:Yahoo Canyons Group] On Behalf Of RAM Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:52 PM To: Yahoo Canyons Group Subject: [from Canyons Group] Home Page Photo
A photo from Luke near Coffin Canyon, Death Valley, Christmas 2011. Know most of the folks, but perhaps someone there there can identify everyone and any back story.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
RAM
A photo from Luke near Coffin Canyon, Death Valley, Christmas 2011. Know most of the folks, but perhaps someone there there can identify everyone and any back story.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
Randi
That’s a GREAT photo! The river looks really intimidating ~ WOW!
— On Fri, 12/23/11, RAM adkramoo@aol.com> wrote:
From: RAM adkramoo@aol.com> Subject: [from Canyons Group] Home Page Photo To: Yahoo Canyons Group Date: Friday, December 23, 2011, 1:39 PM
ÂÂ
Todd Martin, rappelling out of Tanner Wash, into a rapid of the Colorado River, with pack raft in hand. February 20th 2009
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
RAM
Todd Martin, rappelling out of Tanner Wash, into a rapid of the Colorado River, with pack raft in hand. February 20th 2009
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
RAM
Sorry, a little slow here. The spray from a falls coats the walls in ice, in a V shape that you have to low stem to get by?
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “phil” wrote:
None of the photos are good. Imagine one of the rappels (not keyhole or the last) in the slot section: the spray from the creek froze on both walls just down canyon on the walls the form a pinch. The ice got so thick that it constricted the canyon bottom. All the walls were covered in ice so we couldn’t manage a way to pendulum above it.
Took a while but we managed to squeeze through.
Phillip
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
Ice shields? What exactly do you mean? Got pictures?
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “phil” wrote:
I think the ice shields we found in the Subway in January scared me more than the snow ramps I have seen. The ice shields were extremely solid and wouldn’t budge or break with everything we tried. Luckily, we could barely swim through a small notch they formed.
Staging takes on a entire different purpose during off-season conditions.
Phillip
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
Once we came to a rap in the Hammerhead and a fella was getting on to rap and we said….’HOLD ON THERE!”…..The rap dropped into gash in front of a 20 foot high snowfield about 6 feet downcanyon and 2 or 3 feet lower than we were. The snowfield was undercut below the lip and no hole was present. It was a rap into a trap. It turned out that the only solution we could come up with was to get a running start, matrix move a foot off the wall and dive to the snow bank, over the 20+ foot drop. DYNOmite! Preteen Aaron hated dyno moves back then and it had him in near tears, but he dealt and made it. If it had been 12 feet rather that 6 over the gap, I am not sure what we would have done, with 3 raps behind us and our ropes pulled. Neil, were you there that day, I think?
Ram
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “phil” wrote:
Rappelling down snow slides like that can be quite fun. Always unnerving to see though…since one never knows how they will terminate. One of the rappels in Corral was a super fun process more akin to skating a half-pipe than traditional canyoneering.
Phillip
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, Wayne Burns wrote:
Cool stuff guys! Echo? Did you start whispering? 😉
To: Yahoo Canyons Group
> From: adkramoo@
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:07:39 +0000
Subject: [from Canyons Group] Home Page Photo
Here is a picture of Kip Marshall attempting to ascend what is normally a non-technical approach canyon, in June 2008. The picture is looking up canyon and shows how snow can be super dangerous. The sides melt out and the undercuts are not visible when you are on top, making breaking through a real possibility. Sometimes one can sneak by down low, even climb back up. That also has its dangers, as large blocks collapse without warning, on occasions. In this case, no holes were in the cave beyond Kip and we were forced to turn around and abandon the canyon we had on tap for the day. These conditions, while difficult are sublime and beautiful
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
>
>
phil
None of the photos are good. Imagine one of the rappels (not keyhole or the last) in the slot section: the spray from the creek froze on both walls just down canyon on the walls the form a pinch. The ice got so thick that it constricted the canyon bottom. All the walls were covered in ice so we couldn’t manage a way to pendulum above it.
Took a while but we managed to squeeze through.
Phillip
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
Ice shields? What exactly do you mean? Got pictures?
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “phil” wrote:
I think the ice shields we found in the Subway in January scared me more than the snow ramps I have seen. The ice shields were extremely solid and wouldn’t budge or break with everything we tried. Luckily, we could barely swim through a small notch they formed.
Staging takes on a entire different purpose during off-season conditions.
Phillip
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
Once we came to a rap in the Hammerhead and a fella was getting on to rap and we said….’HOLD ON THERE!”…..The rap dropped into gash in front of a 20 foot high snowfield about 6 feet downcanyon and 2 or 3 feet lower than we were. The snowfield was undercut below the lip and no hole was present. It was a rap into a trap. It turned out that the only solution we could come up with was to get a running start, matrix move a foot off the wall and dive to the snow bank, over the 20+ foot drop. DYNOmite! Preteen Aaron hated dyno moves back then and it had him in near tears, but he dealt and made it. If it had been 12 feet rather that 6 over the gap, I am not sure what we would have done, with 3 raps behind us and our ropes pulled. Neil, were you there that day, I think?
> Ram
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “phil” wrote:
Rappelling down snow slides like that can be quite fun. Always unnerving to see though…since one never knows how they will terminate. One of the rappels in Corral was a super fun process more akin to skating a half-pipe than traditional canyoneering.
Phillip
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, Wayne Burns wrote:
> Cool stuff guys! Echo? Did you start whispering? 😉
> To: Yahoo Canyons Group
From: adkramoo@
> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:07:39 +0000
> Subject: [from Canyons Group] Home Page Photo
> Here is a picture of Kip Marshall attempting to ascend what is normally a non-technical approach canyon, in June 2008. The picture is looking up canyon and shows how snow can be super dangerous. The sides melt out and the undercuts are not visible when you are on top, making breaking through a real possibility. Sometimes one can sneak by down low, even climb back up. That also has its dangers, as large blocks collapse without warning, on occasions. In this case, no holes were in the cave beyond Kip and we were forced to turn around and abandon the canyon we had on tap for the day. These conditions, while difficult are sublime and beautiful
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
>
Jules
I’m picturing something like shawls you find in caves.
Julie
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
Ice shields? What exactly do you mean? Got pictures?
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “phil” wrote:
I think the ice shields we found in the Subway in January scared me more than the snow ramps I have seen. The ice shields were extremely solid and wouldn’t budge or break with everything we tried. Luckily, we could barely swim through a small notch they formed.
Staging takes on a entire different purpose during off-season conditions.
Phillip
RAM
Ice shields? What exactly do you mean? Got pictures?
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “phil” wrote:
I think the ice shields we found in the Subway in January scared me more than the snow ramps I have seen. The ice shields were extremely solid and wouldn’t budge or break with everything we tried. Luckily, we could barely swim through a small notch they formed.
Staging takes on a entire different purpose during off-season conditions.
Phillip
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
Once we came to a rap in the Hammerhead and a fella was getting on to rap and we said….’HOLD ON THERE!”…..The rap dropped into gash in front of a 20 foot high snowfield about 6 feet downcanyon and 2 or 3 feet lower than we were. The snowfield was undercut below the lip and no hole was present. It was a rap into a trap. It turned out that the only solution we could come up with was to get a running start, matrix move a foot off the wall and dive to the snow bank, over the 20+ foot drop. DYNOmite! Preteen Aaron hated dyno moves back then and it had him in near tears, but he dealt and made it. If it had been 12 feet rather that 6 over the gap, I am not sure what we would have done, with 3 raps behind us and our ropes pulled. Neil, were you there that day, I think?
Ram
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “phil” wrote:
Rappelling down snow slides like that can be quite fun. Always unnerving to see though…since one never knows how they will terminate. One of the rappels in Corral was a super fun process more akin to skating a half-pipe than traditional canyoneering.
Phillip
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, Wayne Burns wrote:
Cool stuff guys! Echo? Did you start whispering? 😉
To: Yahoo Canyons Group
> From: adkramoo@
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:07:39 +0000
Subject: [from Canyons Group] Home Page Photo
Here is a picture of Kip Marshall attempting to ascend what is normally a non-technical approach canyon, in June 2008. The picture is looking up canyon and shows how snow can be super dangerous. The sides melt out and the undercuts are not visible when you are on top, making breaking through a real possibility. Sometimes one can sneak by down low, even climb back up. That also has its dangers, as large blocks collapse without warning, on occasions. In this case, no holes were in the cave beyond Kip and we were forced to turn around and abandon the canyon we had on tap for the day. These conditions, while difficult are sublime and beautiful
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
>
phil
I think the ice shields we found in the Subway in January scared me more than the snow ramps I have seen. The ice shields were extremely solid and wouldn’t budge or break with everything we tried. Luckily, we could barely swim through a small notch they formed.
Staging takes on a entire different purpose during off-season conditions.
Phillip
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
Once we came to a rap in the Hammerhead and a fella was getting on to rap and we said….’HOLD ON THERE!”…..The rap dropped into gash in front of a 20 foot high snowfield about 6 feet downcanyon and 2 or 3 feet lower than we were. The snowfield was undercut below the lip and no hole was present. It was a rap into a trap. It turned out that the only solution we could come up with was to get a running start, matrix move a foot off the wall and dive to the snow bank, over the 20+ foot drop. DYNOmite! Preteen Aaron hated dyno moves back then and it had him in near tears, but he dealt and made it. If it had been 12 feet rather that 6 over the gap, I am not sure what we would have done, with 3 raps behind us and our ropes pulled. Neil, were you there that day, I think? > Ram
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “phil” wrote:
Rappelling down snow slides like that can be quite fun. Always unnerving to see though…since one never knows how they will terminate. One of the rappels in Corral was a super fun process more akin to skating a half-pipe than traditional canyoneering.
Phillip
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, Wayne Burns wrote:
> Cool stuff guys! Echo? Did you start whispering? 😉
> To: Yahoo Canyons Group
From: adkramoo@
> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:07:39 +0000
> Subject: [from Canyons Group] Home Page Photo
> Here is a picture of Kip Marshall attempting to ascend what is normally a non-technical approach canyon, in June 2008. The picture is looking up canyon and shows how snow can be super dangerous. The sides melt out and the undercuts are not visible when you are on top, making breaking through a real possibility. Sometimes one can sneak by down low, even climb back up. That also has its dangers, as large blocks collapse without warning, on occasions. In this case, no holes were in the cave beyond Kip and we were forced to turn around and abandon the canyon we had on tap for the day. These conditions, while difficult are sublime and beautiful
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
Jules
So it’s a bit like canyoneering crossed with mountaineering? I would love to try that! I hope I get the chance to one day.
Julie
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
Here is a picture of Kip Marshall attempting to ascend what is normally a non-technical approach canyon, in June 2008. The picture is looking up canyon and shows how snow can be super dangerous. The sides melt out and the undercuts are not visible when you are on top, making breaking through a real possibility. Sometimes one can sneak by down low, even climb back up. That also has its dangers, as large blocks collapse without warning, on occasions. In this case, no holes were in the cave beyond Kip and we were forced to turn around and abandon the canyon we had on tap for the day. These conditions, while difficult are sublime and beautiful
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
RAM
Once we came to a rap in the Hammerhead and a fella was getting on to rap and we said….’HOLD ON THERE!”…..The rap dropped into gash in front of a 20 foot high snowfield about 6 feet downcanyon and 2 or 3 feet lower than we were. The snowfield was undercut below the lip and no hole was present. It was a rap into a trap. It turned out that the only solution we could come up with was to get a running start, matrix move a foot off the wall and dive to the snow bank, over the 20+ foot drop. DYNOmite! Preteen Aaron hated dyno moves back then and it had him in near tears, but he dealt and made it. If it had been 12 feet rather that 6 over the gap, I am not sure what we would have done, with 3 raps behind us and our ropes pulled. Neil, were you there that day, I think? Ram
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “phil” wrote:
Rappelling down snow slides like that can be quite fun. Always unnerving to see though…since one never knows how they will terminate. One of the rappels in Corral was a super fun process more akin to skating a half-pipe than traditional canyoneering.
Phillip
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, Wayne Burns wrote:
Cool stuff guys! Echo? Did you start whispering? 😉
To: Yahoo Canyons Group
> From: adkramoo@
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:07:39 +0000
Subject: [from Canyons Group] Home Page Photo
Here is a picture of Kip Marshall attempting to ascend what is normally a non-technical approach canyon, in June 2008. The picture is looking up canyon and shows how snow can be super dangerous. The sides melt out and the undercuts are not visible when you are on top, making breaking through a real possibility. Sometimes one can sneak by down low, even climb back up. That also has its dangers, as large blocks collapse without warning, on occasions. In this case, no holes were in the cave beyond Kip and we were forced to turn around and abandon the canyon we had on tap for the day. These conditions, while difficult are sublime and beautiful
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
>
>
phil
Rappelling down snow slides like that can be quite fun. Always unnerving to see though…since one never knows how they will terminate. One of the rappels in Corral was a super fun process more akin to skating a half-pipe than traditional canyoneering.
Phillip
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, Wayne Burns wrote:
> Cool stuff guys! Echo? Did you start whispering? 😉
> To: Yahoo Canyons Group
From: adkramoo@… > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:07:39 +0000 > Subject: [from Canyons Group] Home Page Photo
> Here is a picture of Kip Marshall attempting to ascend what is normally a non-technical approach canyon, in June 2008. The picture is looking up canyon and shows how snow can be super dangerous. The sides melt out and the undercuts are not visible when you are on top, making breaking through a real possibility. Sometimes one can sneak by down low, even climb back up. That also has its dangers, as large blocks collapse without warning, on occasions. In this case, no holes were in the cave beyond Kip and we were forced to turn around and abandon the canyon we had on tap for the day. These conditions, while difficult are sublime and beautiful
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
>
Wayne Burns
Cool stuff guys! Echo? Did you start whispering? 😉
To: Yahoo Canyons Group From: adkramoo@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:07:39 +0000 Subject: [from Canyons Group] Home Page Photo
Here is a picture of Kip Marshall attempting to ascend what is normally a non-technical approach canyon, in June 2008. The picture is looking up canyon and shows how snow can be super dangerous. The sides melt out and the undercuts are not visible when you are on top, making breaking through a real possibility. Sometimes one can sneak by down low, even climb back up. That also has its dangers, as large blocks collapse without warning, on occasions. In this case, no holes were in the cave beyond Kip and we were forced to turn around and abandon the canyon we had on tap for the day. These conditions, while difficult are sublime and beautiful
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
RAM
Here is a picture of Kip Marshall attempting to ascend what is normally a non-technical approach canyon, in June 2008. The picture is looking up canyon and shows how snow can be super dangerous. The sides melt out and the undercuts are not visible when you are on top, making breaking through a real possibility. Sometimes one can sneak by down low, even climb back up. That also has its dangers, as large blocks collapse without warning, on occasions. In this case, no holes were in the cave beyond Kip and we were forced to turn around and abandon the canyon we had on tap for the day. These conditions, while difficult are sublime and beautiful
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/
RAM
Here is an offering from Hawaii Megan Arhart rappeling the last falls of Maka, Maui. Photo: Ira Lewis. Other notables on the trip were Jane Arhart, Sonny and Calius Lawrence, Pascal Van Duin and Dave Black made some cameos. That is who I recognized anyway from the photos. A TR and video is promised sometime in the near future.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/