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I thought I recognized that photo! I think that was 2009-10. I think I woke every morning thinking this was the day to head home. But not that day Fun times in those snowy canyons. Carol — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
Picture by Carol Petrelli from FreezeFest past. Just a reminder of how bad it can get and how lovely it was this year. > Carol is signed up for my Picasa pictures, which gives me access to her’s. Hope she doesn’t mind that I snatched one and gave her billing ;-)
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Authorcarol
DateJanuary 14, 2012
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  • Here is Rich Carlson downclimbing a drop in 5 Mile canyon, Capital Reef National Park. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/

    The photo was taken most of the way through a loop descent that involved going well up Cottonwood Canyon, ascending over 1,000 vertical feet, then complex slickrock cross country travel, followed by dropping into 5 Mile Canyon right above the most interesting parts of the canyon The photo was taken October 13th, 2002.

    Rich, one of the sports most respected instructors, was the originator of this canyon forum in May of 2000. I personally hold him responsible for creating the environment that has led to my forming so many of my closest friendships. That in turn led to my skill level improving, allowing for so many wonderful adventures in my life. I thank him sincerely. Ram

  • Ranger Bill Wolverton stemming high in Middle Bishop Canyon, Escalante. Picture by Wade Christensen

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  • Here is Jenny West testing her water trap, with Tom Jones and Brian Oliver helping. Note the garden hose to prevent rope grooves. Picture taken in One Trick Pony, Glen Canyon, Utah. May 6th 2011.

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  • Gary S. and Mike P. in East Baker, shortly after the Skunkman had been the Stuckman, aided to freedom by his pal Gary and others. Mike was calm and collected as always. Good times! September 9th 2007.

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  • Peyman Razeghi

    Wow. I never thought it would be like that.

    On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:59 PM, RAM adkramoo@aol.com> wrote:

    > Here is the big rap in Waterholes canyon, Arizona. It’s bit more than 300 > feet. Rich Rudow on rappel, me bottom belaying. Photo by Tom Jones, > February 21st 2009.

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  • Here is the big rap in Waterholes canyon, Arizona. It’s bit more than 300 feet. Rich Rudow on rappel, me bottom belaying. Photo by Tom Jones, February 21st 2009.

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  • Someone else tossing at the same time, with slack rope, helps reduce the rope drag, so yes. Often support of the feet, with a hand and shoulder, particularly the left foot is often offered the tosser. Add those digging and sifting sand (good) from a pothole that is mostly golf ball sized rocks (bad), providing the 1/4-1/3 potshots. Three to 4 potshots usually necessary. Add later the hand over hand exit to the pot and you have a team effort, which is the hallmark of potholing.

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, Wayne Burns wrote:

    > “Like!” > Great job to Spidey & all the rest of you. > So…was the potshot toss assisted by someone else on potshot-rope toss? > Cheers, > Wayne

    To: Yahoo Canyons Group

    From: adkramoo@… > Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 05:59:38 +0000 > Subject: [from Canyons Group] Home Page Photo

    > Steve “Spidey” Jackson, in silhouette having tossed a 1/3 full potshot 44 feet, from a 12 foot high stem, over a pothole. October 25th, 2008.

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    >

  • Wayne Burns

    “Like!” Great job to Spidey & all the rest of you. So…was the potshot toss assisted by someone else on potshot-rope toss? Cheers, Wayne

    To: Yahoo Canyons Group From: adkramoo@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 05:59:38 +0000 Subject: [from Canyons Group] Home Page Photo

    Steve “Spidey” Jackson, in silhouette having tossed a 1/3 full potshot 44 feet, from a 12 foot high stem, over a pothole. October 25th, 2008.

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  • Steve “Spidey” Jackson, in silhouette having tossed a 1/3 full potshot 44 feet, from a 12 foot high stem, over a pothole. October 25th, 2008.

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  • Oh, yummy! (why can’t they grow canyoneers like that in Oz?)

    Julie

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:

    Thank goodness for large rocks….and canyoneers that can haul them. Tis the Death Valley season and here is Mike Cressman, garbed in helmet, harness, shoes and socks and nothing else…or so it appears. The picture came to me from Mark Dutweiler. Hopefully someone can confirm which canyon in Death Valley and who took the photo, if it wasn’t Mark. 😉

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  • No idea which canyon it is, but I know that is a small rock for Mike. I call him the machine. I have a couple pics of him moving some massive stuff. Machine!.. Engage! lol

    And to top it off I have been “Forklifted” by him. On a trip through Styx I meat anchored everyone for a 10 foot down climb. In the past I have used my pack as an anchor to get past the drop but no need when Mike is below. He held his hands out palm up with arms extended and I stepped onto his hands. As he lowered me I tried to keep the weight to a minimum by using my hands on the rock. He said “no, no.. I gotcha. See?”. While he said this he was lifting me up and down like I was a just a sack of groceries. Good to have people like this around.

    And speaking of DV it was a great trip this year.. Had a blast. Thanks for playing everyone!

    Luke

    From: Yahoo Canyons Group [mailto:Yahoo Canyons Group] On Behalf Of RAM Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 7:23 PM To: Yahoo Canyons Group Subject: [from Canyons Group] Home Page Photo

    Thank goodness for large rocks….and canyoneers that can haul them. Tis the Death Valley season and here is Mike Cressman, garbed in helmet, harness, shoes and socks and nothing else…or so it appears. The picture came to me from Mark Dutweiler. Hopefully someone can confirm which canyon in Death Valley and who took the photo, if it wasn’t Mark. 😉

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  • Thank goodness for large rocks….and canyoneers that can haul them. Tis the Death Valley season and here is Mike Cressman, garbed in helmet, harness, shoes and socks and nothing else…or so it appears. The picture came to me from Mark Dutweiler. Hopefully someone can confirm which canyon in Death Valley and who took the photo, if it wasn’t Mark. 😉

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/

  • Yes its White Canyon the logs were deposited in one event. It is a large drainage that drains much pinion, juniper and ponderosa forests. It occurred I believe on the 8th of October 2003. I was in Natural Bridges that day and saw a sky the color of which I have never seen before. One heck of a flood and one heck of a storm. Some of the folks who were in the Home Page photo where also perhaps the last people thru the canyon before the flood, I think the 7th of October. I went the first time the following January 1st 2004, as seen here http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/rave/0401north/index3.htm

    Here is a different story of how it was to pass thru such a place. What was most memorable was the ability to move huge logs weighing over a ton with one finger. This was true a few years after the event. http://www.math.utah.edu/~sfolias/canyontales/ram/?i=hole

    It was interesting too that log jams predating the major flood were wiped out during the major flood and that areas that had been swimmers for years were filled with sand to the same height as the water used to be. Over the course of 3+ years the debris was washed down canyon via lesser flood events.

    Correction…The present Home Page Photo was 2 years and a week after the flood that caused the jams, not a year and a week. Ram

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “kuenn_k2” wrote:

    There’s some awesomeness in the latest photo on the home page… an impressive pile of faggots. From my untrained eye it appears to have been deposited in a single event, can anyone give details on how/when that might have occurred? I’m assuming this is in White Canyon from the description.

    Good fodder for the indifferent flash-flood-adventurer.

    > -kuenn >

  • kuenn_k2

    There’s some awesomeness in the latest photo on the home page… an impressive pile of faggots. From my untrained eye it appears to have been deposited in a single event, can anyone give details on how/when that might have occurred? I’m assuming this is in White Canyon from the description.

    Good fodder for the indifferent flash-flood-adventurer.

    -kuenn

  • Here is a picture of the Black Hole log jam from October 2005, a year and a week after it was formed by a massive flood. This is taken just before the Black Hole section proper. This and the other major log jam, in the middle of the Hole proper, lasted another 2 years, being slowly washed away, one flood at a time. Ben Roberts provides scale in the picture. Photo by Eric Godfrey.

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  • The West gals, from British Columbia, Canada. lt to rt Cassidy and Jenny, descending Cave Canyon, Moab area, May 2011.

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  • Here is Steve Cole at an abandoned mine, 1,000 vertical feet below Dante’s View, adorning horns. Man those things are heavy. February 20th, 2008 in Death Valley National Park, in California.

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  • Here is the “Sister’s Act.” Malia pulling Heather out of the maelstrom in Weehawken Canyon, Ouray Colorado, August 19th, 2011.

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  • Stephen Ziff in Orderville Canyon, February 1988

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