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> Yikes! That’s quite a scary photo on the home page – an > inebriated gremlin. This must be the dreaded canyon witch who haunts > naughty canyoneers.

Awww. Gee thanks guys. I’m glad you like my happy holidays card. Seasons greeting to you too!

Oh, and Mikey, I’ll find out where you’re sleeping at Freeze Fest…

-Susan- I mean Malia

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AuthorMalia
DateDecember 20, 2006
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  • Tom Jones

    The Sevylor Trail Boats have two, separate, short-handled paddles. Kind of whacky, but they seem to work. They have a connector to make them into a kayak style paddle, but the handle is way too short.

    Sonny’s decade as a waterbug really showed. Amazing to stay in the boat through those waves…

    Tom

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “restrac2000” wrote:

    Is that a new technique for paddling Sonny….one handed? I would think those small boats > would offer enough challenge but there you guy upping the ante a bit. Style indeed.

    Phillip >

  • restrac2000

    Is that a new technique for paddling Sonny….one handed? I would think those small boats would offer enough challenge but there you guy upping the ante a bit. Style indeed.

    Phillip

  • davewyo1

    Gypsum Projectile Point*: Contracting stemmed projectile point technologies are known over most areas of the United States. The Gypsum cluster treats a series of contracting stemmed projectile points common to the Great Basin and Southwest. The Gypsum type was named for Gypsum Cave, Nevada(Harrington 1933, Wormington 1957) and is a triangular, contracting stemmed projectile point. The haft element expands to meet the blade so that maximum width of the stem is always at the neck or at the juncture of the shoulder and haft. The length of the stem is highly variable, due in part to differences in blade size, and sometimes is longer than the blade. The haft element typically lacks grinding or smoothing. Serration of the edge occurs but is often lacking in many assemblages. Manufacturing involved a combination of percussion and pressure flaking with pressure flaking being the dominant method that was also employed in the formation of the stem. Raw materials selected for manufacture include essentially every available type of flaking stone from coarse to the fine grained rocks including chert and other siliceous stone to obsidian, basalt, rhyolite, and quartzite. The Gypsum type dates from the Late Archiac period from ca. 2000 to 800 B.C. Contracting stemmed points comparable to the broad typology of the Gypsum cluster occur throughout most parts of the southern Great Basin. Contracting stemmed points such as these are essentially absent from archeological sites in the northern Great Basin(Holmer 1985;105) *excerpts from “Stone Age Spear and Arrow Points of the Southwestern United States”, by Noel D. Justice(Indiana University Press, 2002).

  • davewyo1

    I think I have the Meadow Salsify here in the J Hole. I saw one this morning but it is closed right now. Possiby they open in the cooler hours and close in the heat of the day. I’ll get a photo fer ya tomorrow if it’s open and if it’s a Meadow… Happy Botanizing! D

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “Tom Jones” wrote:

    Tragopogon dubius scop. > Sunflower family (Asteraceae)

    Goat’s Beard or Yellow Salsify

    Just coming into bloom. I’ve got some in my front yard, and I’m > trying to figure out when they open, which seems to be not very > often.

    There’s also a purple Salsity (called “Salsify”) which I’d like to > see, and a related yellow one called Meadow Salsify (T. pratensis) > where bracts are not longer than the petals.

    Tom

    > — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “davewyo1” wrote:

    Hey Tom,

    Your Goatsbeard looks very much like a Salsify to me. Do you have > a

    photo of the whole plant? Is Goatsbeard and Salsify the same > thing? I

    know these are all common names and can vary from area to area…

    Dave

    >

  • Tom Jones

    Tragopogon dubius scop. Sunflower family (Asteraceae)

    Goat’s Beard or Yellow Salsify

    Just coming into bloom. I’ve got some in my front yard, and I’m trying to figure out when they open, which seems to be not very often.

    There’s also a purple Salsity (called “Salsify”) which I’d like to see, and a related yellow one called Meadow Salsify (T. pratensis) where bracts are not longer than the petals.

    Tom

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “davewyo1” wrote:

    Hey Tom, > Your Goatsbeard looks very much like a Salsify to me. Do you have a > photo of the whole plant? Is Goatsbeard and Salsify the same thing? I > know these are all common names and can vary from area to area… > Dave >

  • I believe so. At least, I have heard that plant called both names.

    Jeff

    —– Original Message —- Is Goatsbeard and Salsify the same thing?

  • davewyo1

    Hey Tom, Your Goatsbeard looks very much like a Salsify to me. Do you have a photo of the whole plant? Is Goatsbeard and Salsify the same thing? I know these are all common names and can vary from area to area… Dave

  • hank moon

    nein! wee! I said wee!

    please remove the cartoon.

    On 5/22/08, Tom Jones ratagonia@gmail.com> wrote:

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group , “onkaluna” > wrote:

    Beautiful, Tom! A wee bit more contrast by tilting the screen give a

    perfect silhouette of that magical tree.

    Like this?

    T

    >

  • Tom Jones

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “onkaluna” wrote:

    Beautiful, Tom! A wee bit more contrast by tilting the screen give a > perfect silhouette of that magical tree. >

    Like this?

    T

  • onkaluna

    Beautiful, Tom! A wee bit more contrast by tilting the screen give a perfect silhouette of that magical tree.

  • Tom Jones

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “davewyo1” wrote:

    The Zion area is especially fortunate to have ALL kinds of flowers; > everything from low desert to sub-alpine. I first thought your Zion > wildflower photo was a possible gentian, but no gentian has 8 petals. > Then I thought it could be in the Bitterroot Family, but no go. I don’t > have anything for ya on that one. >

    Bitterroot it is. But the specific species – from the information on the Internets, the specific species is rather confused. Everyone says the flowers have large variations, but I found a picture of Lewisia pygmeae that looks exactly the same.

    Working on that…

    Tom

  • davewyo1

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “Tom Jones” wrote:

    > you mean, prime WILDFLOWER season, don’t you???

    Isn’t that the SAME thing?

    The Zion area is especially fortunate to have ALL kinds of flowers; everything from low desert to sub-alpine. I first thought your Zion wildflower photo was a possible gentian, but no gentian has 8 petals. Then I thought it could be in the Bitterroot Family, but no go. I don’t have anything for ya on that one.

    Picked up a new species today, ie, new for me. Little yellow thing, > very cute.

    Throw them up and maybe we can identify them. I have a few that are new to me as well and could use some help… Dave

  • bruce silliman

    Where you at Tom? Drove by your place about 830pm and no one was at home. Or is your car in the shop?

    bruce from bryce

    To: canyons@yahoogroups.comFrom: ratagonia@gmail.comDate: Fri, 16 May 2008 04:43:47 +0000Subject: [from Canyons Group] Re: Homepage Photo

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “davewyo1” wrote:>> Awesome!> I understand your issues with the wind. There should oughta be some > kinda law.> I have several shots from this last trip which I will post(check the > Poppies on the Homepage now). For others, if we’re changing the > Homepage Photo too quickly and you missed one; let us know and we’ll > repost it.> It’s GOOD to be in prime canyoneering season!> Dave> you mean, prime WILDFLOWER season, don’t you???Picked up a new species today, ie, new for me. Little yellow thing, very cute.Tom

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  • Tom Jones

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “davewyo1” wrote:

    Awesome! > I understand your issues with the wind. There should oughta be some > kinda law. > I have several shots from this last trip which I will post(check the > Poppies on the Homepage now). For others, if we’re changing the > Homepage Photo too quickly and you missed one; let us know and we’ll > repost it. > It’s GOOD to be in prime canyoneering season! > Dave >

    you mean, prime WILDFLOWER season, don’t you???

    Picked up a new species today, ie, new for me. Little yellow thing, very cute.

    Tom

  • davewyo1

    Awesome! I understand your issues with the wind. There should oughta be some kinda law. I have several shots from this last trip which I will post(check the Poppies on the Homepage now). For others, if we’re changing the Homepage Photo too quickly and you missed one; let us know and we’ll repost it. It’s GOOD to be in prime canyoneering season! Dave

    > Well, maybe…

    The section on the homepage is pretty close to the full pixels > available. Since it shows on a screen, that puts it at about 80 or > 90 dpi. If you printed it at the conventional 180 dpi, it would be > physically half as big.

    I pulled out the little square that was most eye-popping. Notice > the center of the flower part (lower right corner) is out of focus. > Much of the rest of the shot is not 100% in focus.

    Fun stuff to play with. The wind is my new enemy!!! It’s tripod, > windblocks, bright sunlight, then playing with the depth of field, > etc… Burned the top of my head yesterday because I forgot my > bandana and sunscreen, and had all sorts of cool new species I HAD > to shoot.

    Tom >

  • Tom Jones

    — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “davewyo1” wrote:

    Nice detail in that flower shot Tom. > It looks like hairy worms at that magnification. > Is that 1:1 with your Macro lens? > I’ll bet a poster-size print would be eye-popping! > Dave > Well, maybe…

    The section on the homepage is pretty close to the full pixels available. Since it shows on a screen, that puts it at about 80 or 90 dpi. If you printed it at the conventional 180 dpi, it would be physically half as big.

    I pulled out the little square that was most eye-popping. Notice the center of the flower part (lower right corner) is out of focus. Much of the rest of the shot is not 100% in focus.

    Fun stuff to play with. The wind is my new enemy!!! It’s tripod, windblocks, bright sunlight, then playing with the depth of field, etc… Burned the top of my head yesterday because I forgot my bandana and sunscreen, and had all sorts of cool new species I HAD to shoot.

    Tom

  • davewyo1

    Nice detail in that flower shot Tom. It looks like hairy worms at that magnification. Is that 1:1 with your Macro lens? I’ll bet a poster-size print would be eye-popping! Dave

  • davewyo1

    I put up a new Homepage photo. As a lot of us know, Andre is a member of this canyoneering community. Really nice shot Andre! Dave

  • bomabro84738

    Reminds me of a trip thru Heaps a few years back. Got to the last drop (from where the photo was taken) and there were plenty of folks relaxin’ on a hot day after the trudge up to Upper EP. There was a young couple in their “bikinis” sprawled out on a towell on the flat rock just in the fall line below the last drop. I was ready to lower the rope down and at this point no-one below knew I was even up there. In a strong voice I yelled down and kindly asked the young couple to possibly move off to the side? Finally the folks at the beach looked up and noticed that there was someone plugged into the rocks far above! Along with the amazement that we were up there, were the questions “How did you get up there?”. But when I kindly asked the couple to move out of the danger zone once again…..one of the responses from the crowd at the beach really caught me off guard! “Why should they move? You should just go back up from where you came from!”………I had to think about this one for a very loooooong time!?!?. The young couple finally decided it was in their best interest to move and just as they had grabbed their towell and hopped down from the rock, a small rock from above SMACKED the flat rock that they had so comfortly been perched! No really! I didn’t throw it at them! (aiming for the joker that told me to go back up!) ;-]