I finally got my hands on a copy of Michael Kelsey’s new book “Technical Slot Canyon Guide to the Colorado Plateau”. I understand it is being delivered to distributors and will be in stores when they place an order for it. My best guess is to bug Black Diamond to place and order if you are in a hurry, the book is at their distributor now. Might even be in their store by now.
This is a typical Kelsey guide book, lot’s of information packed into a very small space. If you like Kelsey’s guide book’s you will like this one. If you hate Kelsey’s book’s you are going to hate this one. I am certain that most canyoneer’s will end up with it in there collection sooner or later.
As is typical of a Kelsey guide book about 1/3rd of the routes are detailed in anther of his books (mostly in his Hiking the CP book) and the remaining routes will be new to Kelsey fans. The book contains more pictures than most his work.
The book contains lot’s of canyons which have never before been published to the general public. Many of these canyons were known and shared inside the inbred hardcore canyoneering circles but not to the public. This is particularly true of the Robber’s Roost area where a large number of canyons have been published. Kelsey has provided enough Roost info to keep you busy for at least a solid month.
Kelsey has faithfully maintained his commitment to the metric system but in this book most distances are given in Km (miles) which is nice since my car is a big old American SUV which has no intention of learning metric.
This book has also adopted the “Canyon Rating System” first put forth by the ACA and adopted by most CP websites. This is the first time Kelsey has added a rating system and I think it’s a nice touch to keep folks within their skill level. His ratings are on the conservative side in my opinion but ratings are very subjective. It’s better to be conservative than to sandbag some unsuspecting soul.
For the Zion Canyoneer I doubt you will find much new, all the Zion canyon’s in the book are well known among the Rap-N-Swim crew. Oak Creek has been added which should delight a certain local guide service. Several of the popular “local” canyons were missed in this go around, but I hear a 2nd edition is already in the planning stages.
An assortment of six canyons on Navajo Land, five of which are officially closed. Four of them he placed in First Place on his favorite canyon list. The First Place list now contains seven canyons.
Several Capital Reef Canyons have been publicly published for the first time. After that the book is more or less a collection of miscellaneous canyons which are being publicly published for the first time. I know more than one of you is going to lose a “secret” in this book. “Moe Slot” is one of them.
For the first time in a Kelsey book there is mention that consideration’s other than bolting should be explored. I wish he had stressed this point a little (OK, a lot) more. The book is what I would call pro-bolt, but it appears that the effort’s of some to educate Michael might be beginning to pay off. At least the hardcore canyoneers of the CP are no longer referred to as “environmental fruitcakes”
As always with a Kelsey book, the route descriptions should be taken with a gain of salt and common sense should be used. Particular attention should be placed on the “author’s experience” since several canyons are partially betaed but if you read carefully you will note that the entire canyon was not completed for various reasons. In at least two places I know the canyon turns really nasty in the section that Kelsey did not explore.
As I said, Typical Kelsey Guide Book with lot’s of info in a very compressed space. Most canyoneers will find it impossible to resist adding to their library.
Shane Burrows Climb Utah – Canyoneering & Mountaineering http://Climb-Utah.com
scott patterson
I just contacted him fifteen minutes ago, so I don’t know what’s wrong. Try again kelsey@canyoneering.com , and if it doesn’t work his phone is 801-373-3327. I do know that you have to type the above exactly in the “TO” box on your e-mail, you can’t just click on the little highlight above.
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You can order it from Mike himself, Kelsey@canyoneering.com
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You can order it from Mike himself, Kelsey@canyoneering.com
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Shane,
Great review. I’m looking forward to seeing Michaels book on the shelf soon.
Charly —–Original Message—– From: shane@sisna.com [mailto:shane@sisna.com] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:09 PM To: Yahoo Canyons Group Subject: [from Canyons Group] Kelsey’s New Book
I finally got my hands on a copy of Michael Kelsey’s new book “Technical Slot Canyon Guide to the Colorado Plateau”. I understand it is being delivered to distributors and will be in stores when they place an order for it. My best guess is to bug Black Diamond to place and order if you are in a hurry, the book is at their distributor now. Might even be in their store by now.
This is a typical Kelsey guide book, lot’s of information packed into a very small space. If you like Kelsey’s guide book’s you will like this one. If you hate Kelsey’s book’s you are going to hate this one. I am certain that most canyoneer’s will end up with it in there collection sooner or later.
As is typical of a Kelsey guide book about 1/3rd of the routes are detailed in anther of his books (mostly in his Hiking the CP book) and the remaining routes will be new to Kelsey fans. The book contains more pictures than most his work.
The book contains lot’s of canyons which have never before been published to the general public. Many of these canyons were known and shared inside the inbred hardcore canyoneering circles but not to the public. This is particularly true of the Robber’s Roost area where a large number of canyons have been published. Kelsey has provided enough Roost info to keep you busy for at least a solid month.
Kelsey has faithfully maintained his commitment to the metric system but in this book most distances are given in Km (miles) which is nice since my car is a big old American SUV which has no intention of learning metric.
This book has also adopted the “Canyon Rating System” first put forth by the ACA and adopted by most CP websites. This is the first time Kelsey has added a rating system and I think it’s a nice touch to keep folks within their skill level. His ratings are on the conservative side in my opinion but ratings are very subjective. It’s better to be conservative than to sandbag some unsuspecting soul.
For the Zion Canyoneer I doubt you will find much new, all the Zion canyon’s in the book are well known among the Rap-N-Swim crew. Oak Creek has been added which should delight a certain local guide service. Several of the popular “local” canyons were missed in this go around, but I hear a 2nd edition is already in the planning stages.
An assortment of six canyons on Navajo Land, five of which are officially closed. Four of them he placed in First Place on his favorite canyon list. The First Place list now contains seven canyons.
Several Capital Reef Canyons have been publicly published for the first time. After that the book is more or less a collection of miscellaneous canyons which are being publicly published for the first time. I know more than one of you is going to lose a “secret” in this book. “Moe Slot” is one of them.
For the first time in a Kelsey book there is mention that consideration’s other than bolting should be explored. I wish he had stressed this point a little (OK, a lot) more. The book is what I would call pro-bolt, but it appears that the effort’s of some to educate Michael might be beginning to pay off. At least the hardcore canyoneers of the CP are no longer referred to as “environmental fruitcakes”
As always with a Kelsey book, the route descriptions should be taken with a gain of salt and common sense should be used. Particular attention should be placed on the “author’s experience” since several canyons are partially betaed but if you read carefully you will note that the entire canyon was not completed for various reasons. In at least two places I know the canyon turns really nasty in the section that Kelsey did not explore.
As I said, Typical Kelsey Guide Book with lot’s of info in a very compressed space. Most canyoneers will find it impossible to resist adding to their library.
Shane Burrows Climb Utah – Canyoneering & Mountaineering http://Climb-Utah.com
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One last note, I have heard that MountainWorks in Provo has Kelsey’s new Technical Slot Canyon Guide in stock. I’ll be checking tonight to see if High Adventure Specialties (used to be Hansen’s) in Orem also has this book.
– Kris Nosack
Kris Nosack
Shane, good overview of Kelsey’s new book. I was considering writing a little summary myself – thanks for saving me the trouble. I agree with Shane’s assessment of the book. Here are my additional comments:
In Kelsey’s Colorado Plateau hiking guide book (4th edition) each hike included a “Main Attractions” section that gave the reader a quick idea of what was notable about a particular hike. I like this feature, but it is not present in this new Technical Slot Canyon Guide. Makes it much harder to skim the book looking for particular features you’re interested in.
The Introduction is expanded to cover more advanced gear and techniques. Pretty well covered, but there are a few recommendations from Kelsey that I didn’t agree with and a few that were outright incorrect.
Some of these canyons are in very remote areas that are difficult to navigate. I found a good number of Kelsey’s approach and “in canyon” route descriptions to be so terse as to be nearly unusable. Might get people lost. Hasn’t Kelsey discovered GPS yet? On the plus side, Kelsey does include references to USGS map features or text that does help in navigation. I still contend that in some of these areas GPS is almost a necessity for getting where you want to go (at least the first time).
I’m puzzled why Kelsey would waste paper including the closed canyons of the Navajo Nation. Does he think this will put positive pressure on the Kaibito Chapter such that they will open these areas? In my opinion it’s more likely that putting these canyons in this book will only serve to incite poaching (for some the temptation will be too great) and it seems to me that would deepen the Navajo’s committment to keep these canyons closed.
As Shane mentioned, some of the “secret” gems have now been revealed in this new book. While I’m not a big proponent of secrecy, it does seem a shame that these beauties will now be mobbed by the masses.
As in other Kelsey books, this one has a “Top 40” list near the back. The #1 spot is a 7-way tie with Heaps and Imlay listed as the first two. Kolob is listed as the 5th 1st place tie. Zion SAR: get ready for a busy season of rescues in these canyons starting this year. (Yea, I’m joking here a bit … but am I?) The other four #1 canyons are closed Navajo Nation canyons. More fuel for the poaching temptation.
More photos than past books. Good pictures of canyons and canyoneers. Even some people you might know. (Better not bug me or I’ll start naming names! 😉
On the front page Kelsey lists his e-mail addresses and a website! canyoneering.com Pretty much just a one-page website with not much there for now. Also listed are several other canyoneering websites.
Overall this book is worth having. Just having so many canyons in one book is worth the $14 price. I find Kelsey’s maps to be very good and his descriptions are usually adequate. Find a canyon in this book then go on the web and read other beta to make sure you have the best possible info.
Recommended.
– Kris Nosack