I saw this last night on Fox news, made me cringe with all the errors. I guess Coyote Gulch is now in “Escalante Nat’l Forest” in Utah County…
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-missing-teen-hiker-in-utah-county-found,0,1354896.story
Brandt
Yahoo Canyons Group
adkramoo
That is a crazy long way to travel. He likely went up the hill out of Brimstone that accesses Little Canyon, but still……what was he thinking going on such a long walkabout? Hoping to bump into someone? Got twisted around? It is the opposite direction from Dry Fork trail head and how many times further? WOW! Thanks for the info.
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, Calvin Richardson wrote:
Talking to sherriffs office in Kane County Josh (the lost boy) went east in Brimstone and before the narrows headed overland South out of Brimstone and then east into and down Scorpion to the Escalante where he ran into two campers about four miles north of Cyote main Gultch. After having to jump 20 ft he hit his head on a rock and when he came to drank stagnet water and then found water of course all the way down Scorpion, as all he had with him was a pocket knife, head lamp and a glow stick and hoody over t shirt with levi pants. tennis shoes.  He’s deffinetly lucky as he was diabetic.
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Calvin Richardson
Talking to sherriffs office in Kane County Josh (the lost boy) went east in Brimstone and before the narrows headed overland South out of Brimstone and then east into and down Scorpion to the Escalante where he ran into two campers about four miles north of Cyote main Gultch. After having to jump 20 ft he hit his head on a rock and when he came to drank stagnet water and then found water of course all the way down Scorpion, as all he had with him was a pocket knife, head lamp and a glow stick and hoody over t shirt with levi pants. tennis shoes.  He’s deffinetly lucky as he was diabetic.
adkramoo
I’m gonna take a wild guess and project that the trip was in Wet Coyote Gulch. Its no easy task to land in Fools, but seems way more possible and logical than from Dry Fork?????
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “adkramoo” wrote:
OK, a bit more on this. The lad had quite the walkabout. After getting separated from the group in the Spooky/Peek-a-boo area, he wandered over the Scorpion Bench, all the way to and down into Fools Canyon and down to the Escalante River. Man, is that lost, or what? > Not many folks down that way. He was very lucky to wander into some people at all. Tom has said it before. Ya get lost? Sit down and let someone find you. Epic wanderings this time. Lucky boy….
I just looked at the map. I can’t fathom how he managed this? How did he get by Brimstone? At what point does he leave Dry Fork and take off cross country, uphill and land the against the grain angle to Fools? I have heard this from 2 sources now, but it just seems wrong. More tomorrow
> — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “adkramoo” wrote:
OMG!! Just off of the phone with Rick Green. He insists that I post a complete disclaimer for him. He states that he had nothing to do with the debacle…..errrrrrr, I mean search and rescue, other than to point out on a map where Spookey and Peek-a-boo were, as no one involved had any idea. My understanding is that if the lad had come into the Subway in town, it would have been a good move, for until 10 PM that is where all the searchers were. Stories of helicopters flying at night in high winds and more. More to come later today. WOW!
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, Pete Chatelain wrote:
I wonder which plant he ate before jumping off the cliff(s). Not in my scout handbook
> Pete
— On Tue, 4/28/09, gbrandthart wrote:
> From: gbrandthart To: Yahoo Canyons Group
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:17 AM
I saw this last night on Fox news, made me cringe with all the errors. I guess Coyote Gulch is now in “Escalante Nat’l Forest” in Utah County…
http://www.fox13now .com/news/ kstu-missing- teen-hiker- in-utah-county- found,0,1354896. story
Brandt
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adkramoo
OK, a bit more on this. The lad had quite the walkabout. After getting separated from the group in the Spooky/Peek-a-boo area, he wandered over the Scorpion Bench, all the way to and down into Fools Canyon and down to the Escalante River. Man, is that lost, or what? Not many folks down that way. He was very lucky to wander into some people at all. Tom has said it before. Ya get lost? Sit down and let someone find you. Epic wanderings this time. Lucky boy….
I just looked at the map. I can’t fathom how he managed this? How did he get by Brimstone? At what point does he leave Dry Fork and take off cross country, uphill and land the against the grain angle to Fools? I have heard this from 2 sources now, but it just seems wrong. More tomorrow
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “adkramoo” wrote:
OMG!! Just off of the phone with Rick Green. He insists that I post a complete disclaimer for him. He states that he had nothing to do with the debacle…..errrrrrr, I mean search and rescue, other than to point out on a map where Spookey and Peek-a-boo were, as no one involved had any idea. My understanding is that if the lad had come into the Subway in town, it would have been a good move, for until 10 PM that is where all the searchers were. Stories of helicopters flying at night in high winds and more. More to come later today. WOW!
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, Pete Chatelain wrote:
I wonder which plant he ate before jumping off the cliff(s). Not in my scout handbook
Pete
— On Tue, 4/28/09, gbrandthart wrote:
From: gbrandthart Subject: [from Canyons Group] [NEWS] Lost in Coyote Gulch
To: Yahoo Canyons Group
> Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:17 AM
I saw this last night on Fox news, made me cringe with all the errors. I guess Coyote Gulch is now in “Escalante Nat’l Forest” in Utah County…
http://www.fox13now .com/news/ kstu-missing- teen-hiker- in-utah-county- found,0,1354896. story
Brandt >
restrac2000
So this is why I hate local/regional news (despite some talented people who I know have worked for such programs, wink/wink/nudge/nudge). Why can’t they get their information right or just not report nebulous concepts? Utah Co., Escalante NF, Coyote Gulch, photos of Peakaboo and Spooky. Which is it? And the recommendations they make, come-on, talk to people like they have at least a sixth grade education (or more importantly, recommend those who need to have medication in the backcountry carry it on themselves). The twitter thing? Thats not news, thats infotainment. Hate that they make such stories into epic survival accounts. Boy lost for 24 hours is no doubt scary as hell for him and family, but barely an “amazing” survival story.
OOops, back to the recesses. Suckered out with accounts of unfortunate events this weekend.
Phillip
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “Dean Kurtz” wrote:
Let me add my own disclaimer as well. Not sure if Kane County SAR has > written me off or what, but it’s funny that I learned about this “search” > from the news rather than from a phone call asking me to come play. So no, > I had nothing to do with this theatrical event, either.
Dean
—– Original Message —– > From: “adkramoo”
Dean Kurtz
Let me add my own disclaimer as well. Not sure if Kane County SAR has written me off or what, but it’s funny that I learned about this “search” from the news rather than from a phone call asking me to come play. So no, I had nothing to do with this theatrical event, either.
Dean
—– Original Message —– From: “adkramoo” adkramoo@aol.com> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [from Canyons Group] [NEWS] Lost in Coyote Gulch
> OMG!! Just off of the phone with Rick Green. He insists that I post a > complete disclaimer for him. He states that he had nothing to do with the > debacle…..errrrrrr, I mean search and rescue, other than to point out on > a map where Spookey and Peek-a-boo were, as no one involved had any idea. > My understanding is that if the lad had come into the Subway in town, it > would have been a good move, for until 10 PM that is where all the > searchers were. Stories of helicopters flying at night in high winds and > more. More to come later today. WOW!
A.J.
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, Pete Chatelain wrote:
I wonder which plant he ate before jumping off the cliff(s). Not in my scout handbook > Pete
Apparently “cactus and stuff”. After making a rope out of sticks? Glad he’s safe, but I’d frame it as more of what not to do…
— On Tue, 4/28/09, gbrandthart wrote:
> From: gbrandthart To: Yahoo Canyons Group
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:17 AM
> I saw this last night on Fox news, made me cringe with all the errors. I guess Coyote Gulch is now in “Escalante Nat’l Forest” in Utah County…
http://www.fox13now .com/news/ kstu-missing- teen-hiker- in-utah-county- found,0,1354896. story
Brandt
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adkramoo
OMG!! Just off of the phone with Rick Green. He insists that I post a complete disclaimer for him. He states that he had nothing to do with the debacle…..errrrrrr, I mean search and rescue, other than to point out on a map where Spookey and Peek-a-boo were, as no one involved had any idea. My understanding is that if the lad had come into the Subway in town, it would have been a good move, for until 10 PM that is where all the searchers were. Stories of helicopters flying at night in high winds and more. More to come later today. WOW!
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, Pete Chatelain wrote:
I wonder which plant he ate before jumping off the cliff(s). Not in my scout handbook > Pete
— On Tue, 4/28/09, gbrandthart wrote:
> From: gbrandthart To: Yahoo Canyons Group
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:17 AM
> I saw this last night on Fox news, made me cringe with all the errors. I guess Coyote Gulch is now in “Escalante Nat’l Forest” in Utah County…
http://www.fox13now .com/news/ kstu-missing- teen-hiker- in-utah-county- found,0,1354896. story
Brandt
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Pete Chatelain
I wonder which plant he ate before jumping off the cliff(s). Not in my scout handbook Pete
— On Tue, 4/28/09, gbrandthart gbrandthart@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: gbrandthart gbrandthart@yahoo.com> Subject: [from Canyons Group] [NEWS] Lost in Coyote Gulch To: Yahoo Canyons Group Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:17 AM
I saw this last night on Fox news, made me cringe with all the errors. I guess Coyote Gulch is now in “Escalante Nat’l Forest” in Utah County…
http://www.fox13now .com/news/ kstu-missing- teen-hiker- in-utah-county- found,0,1354896. story
Brandt