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Hello everyone. My name is Orion and I am from Homer Alaska. I am interested in Canyoneering so I signed up just to get info and ideas and trick of the trade. I will be going to DeVry in Phoenix hopefully this year or next year. I use to climb, the last time I did any climbing was about ten years ago. I had a fall of over 85 feet, sorta my fault but also the teacher I was helping fault. I was on a rock face that was to technical for any of the students that were in his class, after all it was a junior high group. I was in junior high and had been climbing for only severl years with very little experience at any multipitch climbs or technical climbing. I do know and have been taught how to place friends and cams but when I was climbing this rock it was poor quality with very little holds and cracks. I had a couple of cams and one friend in place but they were below me. I had told the instructor about the fact that I didn’t think it was safe for the kids but he told me to keep going. So I did. I also had no chalk and it was a hot day and I was sweating a river. Well needless to say when I was about 50 or 60 feet from my last placement I asked for him to belay me so I could reach around and try to do another placement and He had just left me there while talking to the students. I yelled out and then slipped and fell almost a total of 85 feet and then slammed into the rock hard. I have played hockey and have been checked before but this was harder than any check I have had. Well I dangled there yelling at the top of my lungs untill he let me down. I am now tring to get my courage up and go do this again but I would love to combine it with hiking, swimming and other things. Your list is by far the best I have seen. If any of you have any tips I would appreciate any help at all. I would love to experience this sport along with all of you!! Thanks!!!!

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AuthorOrion Thrower
DateJune 17, 2000
Discussion2 replies
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  • Orion Thrower

    I appriciate the info Tom. I am really looking forward to be going to Arizona. I have heard nothing but wonderfull things about the state. I have heard a few small bad things like the heat but I think I will be able to manage. Again Thanks!!! — Tom Gendron tomg@automon.com> wrote: > Reply from Arizona: > That sucks on the fall, but great that you’re up > to try again. I have little > experience and consider myself to be a newbee also. > What I have done to get > started is to hike lots of canyons and take some > classes to build basic skills. The > more canyon hiking I do the more places I end up > scrambling, the more basic > skills (and gear) the more aggressive the > hiking/back packing has become. Grand > Canyon rules! > Good luck, if you come to Arizona you will love > it. The heat here takes a lot of > getting used to but the desert is so different from > other places that I’ve lived that > it’s a wonder to explore. > Since you are heading to Arizona, I’d like to give > a small plug for the > http://www.wildernessadventures.com people, they offer > hands on rock/cayoneering > training. I have gone with them twice for basic > skills and they are good people.

    Tom Gendron

    To: Canyons Canyons@egroups.com

    From: Orion Thrower OThrower@yahoo.com

    Date sent: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:14:46 -0700 > (PDT) > Send reply to: canyons@egroups.com Hello everyone. My name is Orion and I am from > Homer

    Alaska. I am interested in Canyoneering so I > signed

    up just to get info and ideas and trick of the > trade.

    I will be going to DeVry in Phoenix hopefully this

    year or next year. I use to climb, the last time > I

    did any climbing was about ten years ago. I had a

    fall of over 85 feet, sorta my fault but also the

    teacher I was helping fault. I was on a rock face

    that was to technical for any of the students that

    were in his class, after all it was a junior high

    group. I was in junior high and had been climbing > for

    only severl years with very little experience at > any

    multipitch climbs or technical climbing. I do > know

    and have been taught how to place friends and cams > but

    when I was climbing this rock it was poor quality > with

    very little holds and cracks. I had a couple of > cams

    and one friend in place but they were below me. I > had

    told the instructor about the fact that I didn’t > think

    it was safe for the kids but he told me to keep > going.

    So I did. I also had no chalk and it was a hot > day

    and I was sweating a river. Well needless to say > when

    I was about 50 or 60 feet from my last placement I

    asked for him to belay me so I could reach around > and

    try to do another placement and He had just left > me

    there while talking to the students. I yelled out > and

    then slipped and fell almost a total of 85 feet > and

    then slammed into the rock hard. I have played > hockey

    and have been checked before but this was harder > than

    any check I have had. Well I dangled there > yelling at

    the top of my lungs untill he let me down. I am > now

    tring to get my courage up and go do this again > but I

    would love to combine it with hiking, swimming and

    other things. Your list is by far the best I > have

    seen. If any of you have any tips I would > appreciate

    any help at all. I would love to experience this

    sport along with all of you!! Thanks!!!!

    =====

    A bend in the road is not the end of the > road…unless

    you fail to make the turn.

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  • Tom Gendron

    Reply from Arizona: That sucks on the fall, but great that you’re up to try again. I have little experience and consider myself to be a newbee also. What I have done to get started is to hike lots of canyons and take some classes to build basic skills. The more canyon hiking I do the more places I end up scrambling, the more basic skills (and gear) the more aggressive the hiking/back packing has become. Grand Canyon rules! Good luck, if you come to Arizona you will love it. The heat here takes a lot of getting used to but the desert is so different from other places that I’ve lived that it’s a wonder to explore. Since you are heading to Arizona, I’d like to give a small plug for the http://www.wildernessadventures.com people, they offer hands on rock/cayoneering training. I have gone with them twice for basic skills and they are good people.

    Tom Gendron

    To: Canyons Canyons@egroups.com> From: Orion Thrower OThrower@yahoo.com> Date sent: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Send reply to: canyons@egroups.com Subject: [canyons] Newbiee

    > Hello everyone. My name is Orion and I am from Homer > Alaska. I am interested in Canyoneering so I signed > up just to get info and ideas and trick of the trade. > I will be going to DeVry in Phoenix hopefully this > year or next year. I use to climb, the last time I > did any climbing was about ten years ago. I had a > fall of over 85 feet, sorta my fault but also the > teacher I was helping fault. I was on a rock face > that was to technical for any of the students that > were in his class, after all it was a junior high > group. I was in junior high and had been climbing for > only severl years with very little experience at any > multipitch climbs or technical climbing. I do know > and have been taught how to place friends and cams but > when I was climbing this rock it was poor quality with > very little holds and cracks. I had a couple of cams > and one friend in place but they were below me. I had > told the instructor about the fact that I didn’t think > it was safe for the kids but he told me to keep going. > So I did. I also had no chalk and it was a hot day > and I was sweating a river. Well needless to say when > I was about 50 or 60 feet from my last placement I > asked for him to belay me so I could reach around and > try to do another placement and He had just left me > there while talking to the students. I yelled out and > then slipped and fell almost a total of 85 feet and > then slammed into the rock hard. I have played hockey > and have been checked before but this was harder than > any check I have had. Well I dangled there yelling at > the top of my lungs untill he let me down. I am now > tring to get my courage up and go do this again but I > would love to combine it with hiking, swimming and > other things. Your list is by far the best I have > seen. If any of you have any tips I would appreciate > any help at all. I would love to experience this > sport along with all of you!! Thanks!!!!

    ===== > A bend in the road is not the end of the road…unless > you fail to make the turn.

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