hi all,
i want to give a try here.
a group of 3 last sunday had to back off in zero-g before the keeper because of a full grown up eagle trapped there
if you are planning to do the canyon or if you are in the area will be nice to try to save the live of such rare and endangered animal.
whatever you say about natural selection remeber how precious is this animal for USA symbol and the fact that is at risk of extinction
I never rescue such a big animal but i think protective gear as lether gloves and gaggles and a big blanket conforter will be appropriate.
there are people out here that planned a trip to rescue a skunk, we are talking of a eagle trapped in a tight slot that will never been able to exit on his own
apparently is located before the keeper pothole in a 18 inches wide spot. i think the animal if is still alive will not have much energie right now so that will make things a little less dangerous
davewyo1
Me too. The canyons are full of critters. Since we’re on the subject… The “Skunkman” himself, was seen rescuing a frog from a pothole the other week. I personally didn’t see the predicament the little ol’froggie was in, but I gather it was desperate. In the same canyon I found a fledgling raven on an isolated sandbar that clearly needed some help. I partner assisted the grounded aviator and sent her down canyon to an open area where she could find some shelter and insects. She huddled out of the way while our group passed and her mom was nearby squawking up a storm. So I felt like that was good enough… This year it seems like more and more canyoneers are seeing nests,chicks and fledglings in canyons. Dave
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “Matt Smith” wrote: > I have observed a multitude of creatures in canyons. Some dead,
Stan McQueen
I don’t think I understand. Far from nobody caring about a trapped animal, many people expressed support and concern for the bird and two guys made the right contacts and sacrificed their time and effort to effect the rescue. I would you think you should be happy rather than disappointed.
How many wildlife films have I seen in which an animal could have been rescued by the photographers, but due to their ethics of non-interference with nature, they allowed the animal to die? These canyoneers would have been justified morally and ethically in taking no action: they didn’t cause the animal to be trapped, after all. But they stepped up and saved it. I applaud them and our community for this action.
If you were so concerned about the bird, why weren’t you one of the rescuers? Possibly you had other commitments. Probably everyone else did too. But these two guys went anyway. Good for them!
Stan
hesse15 wrote: > they made it!!!!
http://uutah.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7346
> the bird had just one more day, but he got out just in time and with > the right people to take care of him.
I am disappointed how here all the enviromentalist ‘fruitcake” will > jump for a little piece of metal on the rock, but apparently no body > care about a endangered (mostly by human impact result ) beautiful > animal that require skilled canyoneers to survive and be able to > reproduce.
If you are worried about your kids not able to see canyons(rocks) in > pristine conditions apparently you do not care about your kids been > able to see such beautiful animal still populating the wild.
such hypocrisy!
> — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “davewyo1” wrote:
> This is great! I hope they are successful. >
> A couple of weeks ago I was waiting at the mouth of Keyhole Canyon >> and could hear another group coming out with amazing clarity. At >
one
> point they passed a lizard that was floating in the shady slot. >
One
> of the youngest guys in the group poked at it and it began to move. >> So, with help from his pals, he immediately launched a rescue >> attempt. >> They coddled the chilly amphibian in a fleece and nestled her in a >> drybag. They gently carried the drybag through the final section >
and
> partner assisted it up onto the sunny benches as soon as they >
could
> climb out. >> Within minutes of being released to the super-heated sandstone, >
the
> Whiptail began to stir. The boys took a few pics and by the time >> they left the fortunate lizard was almost back to normal and was >> thinking of darting off into the bushes. >> As they departed, I told the boys that they had done a good job. >> They beamed with delight and accomplishment as they trotted off to >> catch up with the more mature members of their group. >> Dave >
> — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “hesse15” wrote: >
>> the rescue canyonners crew from uutha is on the way >>> more updates here >>> http://tinyurl.com/2uwsnv
>
>> the progress will be at the end of the post >>> hopefully they can rescue it alive. >>> cri >>
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Matt Smith
Hawks taste like chicken, though I generally prefer wild salmon fed eagles as they tend to be less gamey. Not to digress, but aside from the pain of defeathering such a small creature, spotted owls are also quite tasty!
I have observed a multitude of creatures in canyons. Some dead, some alive, some almost dead, like that hypothermic Wild Turkey. Nature has a course. To aid spontaneously when confronted, sure. To make another trip back? We hold no ethical liability to prevent nature from running it’s course. If I saw a potentially dangerous animal stuck in a canyon would I help or go around? I would definitely go around, and hope it was washed out by the next flash flood, like that nasty coyote in the last pool before the grotto in Imlay. Stupid thing kept floating into those treading water.
Look how much good the California DFW did for those poor whales! I have an idea, lets try to scare them back into the ocean. Hmm, that didn’t work, lets try to woo them back to the ocean. That didn’t work. Hmm, they seem a little pissed off that we keep bugging them, maybe we should leave them alone for a while. Hey, what the! They are swimming back to the ocean!
Sherpa
tnunemac
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “hesse15” wrote: > i do not see all the heat for a piece of metal and total disinterest > for a live animal.
Sorry, I probably didn’t interpret your post correctly. I just bristled at the widely-aimed use of the word “hypocrisy”. I don’t feel like a hypocrit, is all.
For my part, I’m somewhat ambivalent about bolts. I don’t mind them, I’ll use them if they seem secure, but I doubt I’ll ever try to place one, nor would I advocate for a canyon to be dumbed down just so I can drag my fat arse through. I guess I’m bolt agnostic.
At the same time, I’m somewhat ambivalent about things dying in canyons (except humans — I’m opposed to that). I’d rescue something that wouldn’t bite my finger off or poison me, but I try to keep the big picture in mind. I’m just a spectator, after all.
Cheers, Tyson
hesse15
that will be fair
i do not see all the heat for a piece of metal and total disinterest for a live animal.
I value a hawk (also if sorry is not endagered ) in a much higher scale than a piece of metal on rock.
perhaps because I am a female and european so there we have tons of rocks(or mountains if you prefer) but not much wildlife left (in Italy we got 50 bears and 500 wolfes , real eagle total 3000 in the whole europe and the rest of wild life is not in much better shape.
almost a year ago the Baviera people (germany ) killed an italian bear “Bruno” because he crossed the border, and that raised a lot of heat in the news criticizing the Italian government for not being able to defend him.
perhaps we have a different way to think!
i was tempted to go but i cannot take off from work. otherwise i will went.
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “tom” wrote:
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “tnunemac” wrote:
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “hesse15” wrote:
> such hypocrisy!
Uh… I probably shouldn’t respond to this, but I can’t help myself:
Cristina,
Maybe I lost something in translation here, but are you inferring that > we as a community are hypocritical because some fervently express a > viewpoint that bolts damage the rock, and those same people (implied) > do not care about the preservation of animals simply because they > don’t post about it in the same manner?
Many of us are in no position to save this particular resident of > Utah, even if we wanted to, especially since its in an unpublished > canyon. It is hypocritical to expect others to do what you won’t do > yourself!
I am very happy that the hawk was saved, but I don’t see this as > hypocrisy just because everyone didn’t post on it. Should we have a > Poll? Save the hawk, or not – just to see how people feel? I’ll bet > most are in favor of preserving this, and all critters.
-tom (w) >
arivergoddess
Cristina,
Thanks for reporting back it is a great story and I am so glad the redtailed hawk is now recovering.
I am not sure about why you seem upset, but I thought everyone seemed quite concerned about the welfare of the hawk.
Personally I am very happy this giant;-) Redtail Hawk was rescued.
Lori
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “hesse15” wrote:
they made it!!!!
http://uutah.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7346
> the bird had just one more day, but he got out just in time and with > the right people to take care of him.
I am disappointed how here all the enviromentalist ‘fruitcake” will > jump for a little piece of metal on the rock, but apparently no body > care about a endangered (mostly by human impact result ) beautiful > animal that require skilled canyoneers to survive and be able to > reproduce.
If you are worried about your kids not able to see canyons(rocks) in > pristine conditions apparently you do not care about your kids been > able to see such beautiful animal still populating the wild.
such hypocrisy!
> — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “davewyo1” wrote:
This is great! I hope they are successful.
A couple of weeks ago I was waiting at the mouth of Keyhole Canyon
and could hear another group coming out with amazing clarity. At > one
point they passed a lizard that was floating in the shady slot. > One
of the youngest guys in the group poked at it and it began to move.
So, with help from his pals, he immediately launched a rescue
attempt.
They coddled the chilly amphibian in a fleece and nestled her in a
drybag. They gently carried the drybag through the final section > and
partner assisted it up onto the sunny benches as soon as they > could
climb out.
Within minutes of being released to the super-heated sandstone, > the
Whiptail began to stir. The boys took a few pics and by the time
they left the fortunate lizard was almost back to normal and was
thinking of darting off into the bushes.
As they departed, I told the boys that they had done a good job.
They beamed with delight and accomplishment as they trotted off to
catch up with the more mature members of their group.
Dave
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “hesse15” wrote:
the rescue canyonners crew from uutha is on the way
> more updates here
> http://tinyurl.com/2uwsnv
> the progress will be at the end of the post
> hopefully they can rescue it alive.
> cri
>
tom
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “tnunemac” wrote:
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “hesse15” wrote:
such hypocrisy!
Uh… I probably shouldn’t respond to this, but I can’t help myself:
Cristina,
Maybe I lost something in translation here, but are you inferring that we as a community are hypocritical because some fervently express a viewpoint that bolts damage the rock, and those same people (implied) do not care about the preservation of animals simply because they don’t post about it in the same manner?
Many of us are in no position to save this particular resident of Utah, even if we wanted to, especially since its in an unpublished canyon. It is hypocritical to expect others to do what you won’t do yourself!
I am very happy that the hawk was saved, but I don’t see this as hypocrisy just because everyone didn’t post on it. Should we have a Poll? Save the hawk, or not – just to see how people feel? I’ll bet most are in favor of preserving this, and all critters.
-tom (w)
tnunemac
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “hesse15” wrote: > such hypocrisy!
Uh… I probably shouldn’t respond to this, but I can’t help myself:
1.) The Canyons group, as far as I can tell, is populated by a large, diverse group of canyon-loving folks, many of whom I’d wager you haven’t met, much less judge.
2.) It looks like the bird was a hawk, not our American mascot. A noble raptor, for sure, but not, as far as I’m aware, endangered?
3.) When you’ve seen flocks of bald eagles fighting over salmon guts in Alaska, they don’t necessarily seem so noble. To me, anyway. Nice birds, all the same.
4.) Animals die in slot canyons. Sometimes humans are nice enough to help out a trapped critter, but it hardly saves a species from the brink of extinction, seems to me. I’d wager that most animal deaths in slot canyons go utterly unobserved by humankind.
5.) I’m pretty sure I don’t have the first clue how to rescue a distressed hawk with sharp talons and a sharper beak. Deferring such a rescue to a trained pro makes a ton of sense to me.
Cheers, Tyson
Stefanos Folias
woah woah … hypocrisy?
that is a sharp and bold statement to be throwing around. bolts are birds are two different sorts of things and the lack of “jumping for” doesn’t necessarily reflect the feelings of individual members of the group on saving birds from slot canyons!
stefan
On Jun 14, 2007, at 12:27 PM, hesse15 wrote:
> they made it!!!!
http://uutah.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7346
> the bird had just one more day, but he got out just in time and with > the right people to take care of him.
I am disappointed how here all the enviromentalist ‘fruitcake” will > jump for a little piece of metal on the rock, but apparently no body > care about a endangered (mostly by human impact result ) beautiful > animal that require skilled canyoneers to survive and be able to > reproduce.
If you are worried about your kids not able to see canyons(rocks) in > pristine conditions apparently you do not care about your kids been > able to see such beautiful animal still populating the wild.
such hypocrisy!
> — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “davewyo1” wrote: >
> This is great! I hope they are successful. >
> A couple of weeks ago I was waiting at the mouth of Keyhole Canyon >> and could hear another group coming out with amazing clarity. At > one >> point they passed a lizard that was floating in the shady slot. > One >> of the youngest guys in the group poked at it and it began to move. >> So, with help from his pals, he immediately launched a rescue >> attempt. >> They coddled the chilly amphibian in a fleece and nestled her in a >> drybag. They gently carried the drybag through the final section > and >> partner assisted it up onto the sunny benches as soon as they > could >> climb out. >> Within minutes of being released to the super-heated sandstone, > the >> Whiptail began to stir. The boys took a few pics and by the time >> they left the fortunate lizard was almost back to normal and was >> thinking of darting off into the bushes. >> As they departed, I told the boys that they had done a good job. >> They beamed with delight and accomplishment as they trotted off to >> catch up with the more mature members of their group. >> Dave >
> — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “hesse15” wrote: >>
>> the rescue canyonners crew from uutha is on the way >>> more updates here >>> http://tinyurl.com/2uwsnv
>
>> the progress will be at the end of the post >>> hopefully they can rescue it alive. >>> cri >
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hesse15
they made it!!!!
http://uutah.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7346
the bird had just one more day, but he got out just in time and with the right people to take care of him.
I am disappointed how here all the enviromentalist ‘fruitcake” will jump for a little piece of metal on the rock, but apparently no body care about a endangered (mostly by human impact result ) beautiful animal that require skilled canyoneers to survive and be able to reproduce.
If you are worried about your kids not able to see canyons(rocks) in pristine conditions apparently you do not care about your kids been able to see such beautiful animal still populating the wild.
such hypocrisy!
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “davewyo1” wrote:
This is great! I hope they are successful.
A couple of weeks ago I was waiting at the mouth of Keyhole Canyon > and could hear another group coming out with amazing clarity. At one > point they passed a lizard that was floating in the shady slot. One > of the youngest guys in the group poked at it and it began to move. > So, with help from his pals, he immediately launched a rescue > attempt. > They coddled the chilly amphibian in a fleece and nestled her in a > drybag. They gently carried the drybag through the final section and > partner assisted it up onto the sunny benches as soon as they could > climb out. > Within minutes of being released to the super-heated sandstone, the > Whiptail began to stir. The boys took a few pics and by the time > they left the fortunate lizard was almost back to normal and was > thinking of darting off into the bushes. > As they departed, I told the boys that they had done a good job. > They beamed with delight and accomplishment as they trotted off to > catch up with the more mature members of their group. > Dave
> — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “hesse15” the progress will be at the end of the post
hopefully they can rescue it alive.
cri >
davewyo1
This is great! I hope they are successful.
A couple of weeks ago I was waiting at the mouth of Keyhole Canyon and could hear another group coming out with amazing clarity. At one point they passed a lizard that was floating in the shady slot. One of the youngest guys in the group poked at it and it began to move. So, with help from his pals, he immediately launched a rescue attempt. They coddled the chilly amphibian in a fleece and nestled her in a drybag. They gently carried the drybag through the final section and partner assisted it up onto the sunny benches as soon as they could climb out. Within minutes of being released to the super-heated sandstone, the Whiptail began to stir. The boys took a few pics and by the time they left the fortunate lizard was almost back to normal and was thinking of darting off into the bushes. As they departed, I told the boys that they had done a good job. They beamed with delight and accomplishment as they trotted off to catch up with the more mature members of their group. Dave
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “hesse15” wrote:
the rescue canyonners crew from uutha is on the way > more updates here > http://tinyurl.com/2uwsnv
> the progress will be at the end of the post > hopefully they can rescue it alive. > cri
hesse15
the rescue canyonners crew from uutha is on the way more updates here http://tinyurl.com/2uwsnv
the progress will be at the end of the post hopefully they can rescue it alive. cri
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “arivergoddess” wrote:
Hawkwatch International is based in Salt Lake City and they have > people trained in Raptor rescue and rehabilitation. They have a > county by county list of people who are trained to help in this sort > of situation.
I do not know where zero-G is so I could not tell them where they > need to go.
Here is the contact person at Hawkwatch
Emily > 801-484-6808 ex 101
Emily is anxious to hear from this group and wants to get people who > are trained in handling eagles to help rescue this bird.
Lori
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, matt maxon wrote:
http://www.bestfriends.org
> Best Friends Animal Society
5001 Angel Canyon Road
Kanab, Utah 84741-5000
Main phone: (435) 644-2001
Bo wrote:
You may want to try calling The Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in
> Kanab. I believe they can be of help?
— In Yahoo Canyons Group 40yahoogroups.com>,
> matt maxon wrote:
Since I’m not from Utah I don’t know any groups out there > but…..
Here locally there is the Wildlife Waystation
I have dealt with them in the past, very dedicated. I suspect > they
> could
put you on the right path.
http://www.wildlifewaystation.org
Wildlife Waystation
14831 Little Tujunga Canyon Road
Angeles National Forest, CA. 91342-5999
Phone: (818) 899-5201
Fax: (818) 890-1107
hesse15 wrote:
apparently is not that easy
a crew of canyoneers from uutah are trying to organize the > rescue
> here is a trascript of the passage they went trough
> from uutah:
> then they said call Utah Fish and Wildlife
> then they said call the local Hanksville Game Warden
> who then game me the number of a woman in Price who apparently
> deals
> w/ this kind of issue. so i called her and i’m still waiting > for
> her
> to call me back>>
> — In Yahoo Canyons Group 40yahoogroups.com
40yahoogroups.com>,
> matt maxon wrote:
Contact the Utah Dept of Natural Resources
*
*
*Wildlife Resources
1594 W. North Temple, Suite 2110
PO Box 146301
Salt Lake City, Utah 84114-6301
(801) 538-4700
_ DWRcomment@_ *
*Regional Offices:
*NORTHERN REGION (OGDEN)
Bob Hasenyager, regional
supervisor
(801) 176-2740
(801) 479-4010 (Fax)
NORTHEASTERN REGION (VERNAL)
Walt Donaldson, regional
supervisor
(435) 781-9153
(435) 789-8343 (Fax)
CENTRAL REGION (SPRINGVILLE)
Dave Hintze, regional supervisor
(801) 491-5678
(801) 491-5616 (Fax)
SOUTHERN REGION (CEDAR CITY)
Doug Messerly, regional
supervisor
(435) 865-6100
(135) 586-2457 (Fax)
SOUTHEASTERN REGION (PRICE)
Derris Jones, regional supervisor
(435) 636-0260
(135) 637-7361 (Fax)
hesse15 wrote:
hi all,
i want to give a try here.
a group of 3 last sunday had to back off in zero-g before > the
> keeper
> because of a full grown up eagle trapped there
if you are planning to do the canyon or if you are in the > area
> will
> be nice to try to save the live of such rare and > endangered
> animal.
whatever you say about natural selection remeber how > precious
> is
> this animal for USA symbol and the fact that is at risk of
> extinction
I never rescue such a big animal but i think protective > gear
> as
> lether gloves and gaggles and a big blanket conforter > will be
> appropriate.
there are people out here that planned a trip to rescue a
> skunk,
> we
> are talking of a eagle trapped in a tight slot that will > never
> been
> able to exit on his own
apparently is located before the keeper pothole in a 18 > inches
> wide
> spot.
> i think the animal if is still alive will not have much
> energie
> right now so that will make things a little less dangerous
>
Fearless Freddy
From http://uutah.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7301
Hawk rescue is in progress
arivergoddess
Hawkwatch International is based in Salt Lake City and they have people trained in Raptor rescue and rehabilitation. They have a county by county list of people who are trained to help in this sort of situation.
I do not know where zero-G is so I could not tell them where they need to go.
Here is the contact person at Hawkwatch
Emily 801-484-6808 ex 101
Emily is anxious to hear from this group and wants to get people who are trained in handling eagles to help rescue this bird.
Lori
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, matt maxon wrote:
http://www.bestfriends.org
> Best Friends Animal Society > 5001 Angel Canyon Road > Kanab, Utah 84741-5000 > Main phone: (435) 644-2001
Bo wrote:
You may want to try calling The Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in
Kanab. I believe they can be of help?
— In Yahoo Canyons Group ,
matt maxon wrote:
Since I’m not from Utah I don’t know any groups out there but…..
Here locally there is the Wildlife Waystation
I have dealt with them in the past, very dedicated. I suspect they
could
> put you on the right path.
http://www.wildlifewaystation.org
Wildlife Waystation
> 14831 Little Tujunga Canyon Road
> Angeles National Forest, CA. 91342-5999
Phone: (818) 899-5201
Fax: (818) 890-1107
> hesse15 wrote:
apparently is not that easy
a crew of canyoneers from uutah are trying to organize the rescue
here is a trascript of the passage they went trough
from uutah:
matt maxon
http://www.bestfriends.org
Best Friends Animal Society 5001 Angel Canyon Road Kanab, Utah 84741-5000 Main phone: (435) 644-2001
Bo wrote:
You may want to try calling The Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in > Kanab. I believe they can be of help?
— In Yahoo Canyons Group , > matt maxon wrote:
Since I’m not from Utah I don’t know any groups out there but…..
Here locally there is the Wildlife Waystation
I have dealt with them in the past, very dedicated. I suspect they > could
put you on the right path.
http://www.wildlifewaystation.org
Wildlife Waystation
14831 Little Tujunga Canyon Road
Angeles National Forest, CA. 91342-5999
Phone: (818) 899-5201
Fax: (818) 890-1107
hesse15 wrote:
apparently is not that easy
a crew of canyoneers from uutah are trying to organize the rescue
> here is a trascript of the passage they went trough
> from uutah:
> then they said call Utah Fish and Wildlife
> then they said call the local Hanksville Game Warden
> who then game me the number of a woman in Price who apparently > deals
> w/ this kind of issue. so i called her and i’m still waiting for > her
> to call me back>>
> — In Yahoo Canyons Group ,
> matt maxon wrote:
Contact the Utah Dept of Natural Resources
*
*
*Wildlife Resources
1594 W. North Temple, Suite 2110
PO Box 146301
Salt Lake City, Utah 84114-6301
(801) 538-4700
_ DWRcomment@_ *
*Regional Offices:
*NORTHERN REGION (OGDEN)
Bob Hasenyager, regional
supervisor
(801) 176-2740
(801) 479-4010 (Fax)
NORTHEASTERN REGION (VERNAL)
Walt Donaldson, regional
supervisor
(435) 781-9153
(435) 789-8343 (Fax)
CENTRAL REGION (SPRINGVILLE)
Dave Hintze, regional supervisor
(801) 491-5678
(801) 491-5616 (Fax)
SOUTHERN REGION (CEDAR CITY)
Doug Messerly, regional
supervisor
(435) 865-6100
(135) 586-2457 (Fax)
SOUTHEASTERN REGION (PRICE)
Derris Jones, regional supervisor
(435) 636-0260
(135) 637-7361 (Fax)
hesse15 wrote:
hi all,
i want to give a try here.
a group of 3 last sunday had to back off in zero-g before the
> keeper
> because of a full grown up eagle trapped there
if you are planning to do the canyon or if you are in the area
> will
> be nice to try to save the live of such rare and endangered
> animal.
whatever you say about natural selection remeber how precious > is
> this animal for USA symbol and the fact that is at risk of
> extinction
I never rescue such a big animal but i think protective gear > as
> lether gloves and gaggles and a big blanket conforter will be
> appropriate.
there are people out here that planned a trip to rescue a > skunk,
> we
> are talking of a eagle trapped in a tight slot that will never
> been
> able to exit on his own
apparently is located before the keeper pothole in a 18 inches
> wide
> spot.
> i think the animal if is still alive will not have much > energie
> right now so that will make things a little less dangerous
Bo
You may want to try calling The Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Kanab. I believe they can be of help?
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, matt maxon wrote:
Since I’m not from Utah I don’t know any groups out there but…..
Here locally there is the Wildlife Waystation
I have dealt with them in the past, very dedicated. I suspect they could > put you on the right path.
http://www.wildlifewaystation.org
Wildlife Waystation > 14831 Little Tujunga Canyon Road > Angeles National Forest, CA. 91342-5999
Phone: (818) 899-5201
Fax: (818) 890-1107
> hesse15 wrote:
apparently is not that easy
a crew of canyoneers from uutah are trying to organize the rescue
here is a trascript of the passage they went trough
from uutah:
matt maxon
Since I’m not from Utah I don’t know any groups out there but…..
Here locally there is the Wildlife Waystation
I have dealt with them in the past, very dedicated. I suspect they could put you on the right path.
http://www.wildlifewaystation.org
Wildlife Waystation 14831 Little Tujunga Canyon Road Angeles National Forest, CA. 91342-5999
Phone: (818) 899-5201
Fax: (818) 890-1107
hesse15 wrote:
apparently is not that easy
a crew of canyoneers from uutah are trying to organize the rescue > here is a trascript of the passage they went trough > from uutah: > then they said call Utah Fish and Wildlife > then they said call the local Hanksville Game Warden > who then game me the number of a woman in Price who apparently deals > w/ this kind of issue. so i called her and i’m still waiting for her > to call me back>>
> — In Yahoo Canyons Group , > matt maxon wrote:
Contact the Utah Dept of Natural Resources
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*Wildlife Resources
1594 W. North Temple, Suite 2110
PO Box 146301
Salt Lake City, Utah 84114-6301
(801) 538-4700
_ DWRcomment@…_ *
*Regional Offices:
*NORTHERN REGION (OGDEN)
Bob Hasenyager, regional
supervisor
(801) 176-2740
(801) 479-4010 (Fax)
NORTHEASTERN REGION (VERNAL)
Walt Donaldson, regional
supervisor
(435) 781-9153
(435) 789-8343 (Fax)
CENTRAL REGION (SPRINGVILLE)
Dave Hintze, regional supervisor
(801) 491-5678
(801) 491-5616 (Fax)
SOUTHERN REGION (CEDAR CITY)
Doug Messerly, regional
supervisor
(435) 865-6100
(135) 586-2457 (Fax)
SOUTHEASTERN REGION (PRICE)
Derris Jones, regional supervisor
(435) 636-0260
(135) 637-7361 (Fax)
hesse15 wrote:
hi all,
i want to give a try here.
a group of 3 last sunday had to back off in zero-g before the > keeper
> because of a full grown up eagle trapped there
if you are planning to do the canyon or if you are in the area > will
> be nice to try to save the live of such rare and endangered > animal.
whatever you say about natural selection remeber how precious is
> this animal for USA symbol and the fact that is at risk of > extinction
I never rescue such a big animal but i think protective gear as
> lether gloves and gaggles and a big blanket conforter will be
> appropriate.
there are people out here that planned a trip to rescue a skunk, > we
> are talking of a eagle trapped in a tight slot that will never > been
> able to exit on his own
apparently is located before the keeper pothole in a 18 inches > wide
> spot.
> i think the animal if is still alive will not have much energie
> right now so that will make things a little less dangerous
hesse15
apparently is not that easy
a crew of canyoneers from uutah are trying to organize the rescue here is a trascript of the passage they went trough from uutah:
matt maxon
Contact the Utah Dept of Natural Resources
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*Wildlife Resources 1594 W. North Temple, Suite 2110 PO Box 146301 Salt Lake City, Utah 84114-6301 (801) 538-4700 _ DWRcomment@utah.gov_ *
*Regional Offices: *NORTHERN REGION (OGDEN) Bob Hasenyager, regional supervisor (801) 176-2740 (801) 479-4010 (Fax)
NORTHEASTERN REGION (VERNAL) Walt Donaldson, regional supervisor (435) 781-9153 (435) 789-8343 (Fax)
CENTRAL REGION (SPRINGVILLE) Dave Hintze, regional supervisor (801) 491-5678 (801) 491-5616 (Fax)
SOUTHERN REGION (CEDAR CITY) Doug Messerly, regional supervisor (435) 865-6100 (135) 586-2457 (Fax)
SOUTHEASTERN REGION (PRICE) Derris Jones, regional supervisor (435) 636-0260 (135) 637-7361 (Fax)
hesse15 wrote:
hi all,
i want to give a try here.
a group of 3 last sunday had to back off in zero-g before the keeper > because of a full grown up eagle trapped there
if you are planning to do the canyon or if you are in the area will > be nice to try to save the live of such rare and endangered animal.
whatever you say about natural selection remeber how precious is > this animal for USA symbol and the fact that is at risk of extinction
I never rescue such a big animal but i think protective gear as > lether gloves and gaggles and a big blanket conforter will be > appropriate.
there are people out here that planned a trip to rescue a skunk, we > are talking of a eagle trapped in a tight slot that will never been > able to exit on his own
apparently is located before the keeper pothole in a 18 inches wide > spot. > i think the animal if is still alive will not have much energie > right now so that will make things a little less dangerous