Sorry, did not see your rope as we came through. John
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, Steven Jackson
Hi Kip, that group that went through on friday didn’t happen to find a 50′ imlay canyon rope just before the terminal narrows did they. It fell off a pack of our last person on Thursday, and wasn’t noticed until it was to late. >                                                          Thanks for any info: Spidey
— On Sun, 6/28/09, JK Marshall
From: JK Marshall
Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 8:06 PM
Great points Dave. I am not really one to complain about carrying on in a canyon; I have been known to make as much noise as the next canyoneer. I merely want to point out this group’s inconsistensies in their understanding of canyon etiquette.
Kip
— In canyons@yahoogroups .com, “davewyo1”
— In canyons@yahoogroups .com, “JK Marshall”
> Well Kip,
> I looked around in a couple of internet sites and they don’t really stress that kind of ethic as far as I can see. The ACA site did mention that some people go into canyons for solitude and a wilderness experience and that those people usually go slow and look at things(I’m paraphrasing) .
> Let it be clear that I completely agree with you that a nice part of a canyon experience is the “sound” of “wilderness” . I recall doing the Right Fork(or was it the Left Fork?)with your group in the canyon and we were treated with the utmost canyon etiquette that I have ever experienced. I don’t recall any inappropriate “carrying on” unless it was from me;-)
> Anyhoo, what I’m saying is that, generally speaking, it isn’t being taught that you shouldn’t “yell and carry on” in the canyon all day long if the mood strikes you.
> There are dozens of reasons you shouldn’t disturb the pristine nature of the canyon you’re in with yelling and such, but I don’t think the community is fostering any kind of consistent “canyon etiquette” as far as this goes.
> Most of the canyon etiquette I’ve seen was about anchors.
> Dave
> Two of my friends decended upper Imlay on Friday. At the first rappel they encountered a group of 4 from Salt Lake contemplating a coming thunderstorm. My friends decided to go ahead and soon found the group of 4 on their trail. The group behind them did not ask to play through and it really would have made little sense based on their group size. As a speed courtesy, my friends asked the group to simply disconnect their rope rather than wait for them to pull it. After several rappels like this, one of the group members proceeded to give my friends a lecture on canyon etiquette… something to the effect of: “sometime, you’re gonna have to pull your own rope” and “you should learn better canyon etiquette”. On Saturday, we joined up and decended about an hour behind this group in Implay. I could hear their yelling and carrying on the entire day! The last time I checked, this is not proper canyon etiquette. I however remain extremely irked about > their attitudes! The canyons are already plenty crowded, we don’t need them crowded with Asses!
Kip
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