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Search and Rescue team

Timpanogos Emergency Response Team (TERT) http://www.tert.org/ was looking for volunteer’s recently.

Shane Burrows

—– Original Message —– From: Chris Raver v-2crave@mssupport.microsoft.com> To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:25 PM Subject: RE: [canyons group] Re: ACA Rescue Insurance??

Any body here on the Wasatch county Search and Rescue team, I have some > questions about volunteering.
> —–Original Message—– > From: Dean Kurtz [mailto:dkurtz@xpressweb.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:14 PM > To: Yahoo Canyons Group
Subject: Re: [canyons group] Re: ACA Rescue Insurance??
> I agree with you, Dave, and our extrication and EMS systems in Kane County > do charge for their services. SAR, on the other hand, well, we have been > known to charge for rescue based on some of the same situations you are > referring to. We recently had a search for a woman who just got angry at > her husband and took off walking. Didn’t find her until 24 hrs later. We > used planes, county and city law enforcement, county SAR, and Classic > Lifeguard Helicopter. You better believe she received the bill when we > found out why she was missing.
Dean
> —– Original Message —– > From: “llana kanka” icegydbuk@yahoo.com
To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:07 PM > Subject: Re: [canyons group] Re: ACA Rescue Insurance??

Been a rescuer for a couple of decades now, full time
and volunteer. However you look at it, certain groups
tax the system more than their share. And contrary to
what everyone is saying here…yes you do pay for it.
A lot of full-time rescue services are also patient
transport and care providers, and many of them will
charge you an extrication fee if they have to
extricate AND transport you to the hospital. I know
that because I ran two county 911 EMS systems that did
just that. I got no greater enjoyment than sticking a
drunk driver with a extrication fee. Whether the U.S.
system ever recovers that fee is another story,
because people have the attitude that it should all be
free. I’ve also worked in Middle East systems where
you pay for it, period, no questions asked, or you go
to jail.

If it’s beyond a person’s control (e.g. the elderly or
other groups with high response requirements due to
their health or living environment) they should get it
without having to worry about it. If it’s a vagrant
who chronically fakes heart attacks so he can get a
warm bed and free meals in in a hospital for a few
days instead of going to the shelter, I think he
should pay for it in whatever way he can (if not
through fines, then public service, etc). The same
goes for an adrenaline-junkie who puts rescuers at
risk and consumes their time and resources. Rescue of
any kind is not free. We all pay for it with our
taxes. The expensive extrication gear on a rescue rig
doesn’t just appear magically, put their by the rescue
fairy. If I consistently put myself on the far edge of
what the average person considers a reasonable risk,
then I should have to pay for it if it goes bad. It
doesn’t mean I don’t have the right to be rescued. It
only means that I have the responsibility to support
the system.

Rescue services have their hands tied in this country.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t (or rather sued
if you do or don’t). That’s the real reason most of
them don’t try to charge…public opinion and fear of
lawsuits.

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AuthorShane B.
DateMay 10, 2001
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