Jonathan Zambella took some video during our October trip in Glen Canyon. Mike Henkin put these up on Youtube for me.
They show the use of one of the two water trap anchors. The one in the video is Tom’s, (Jenny West has made the other prototype) version that is being tested now here.
The first two videos are from the first day, in a canyon called Obscured By Clouds. It is a hard canyon, but Brendan and I had done it before so it was a good choice of a canyon to shake down systems together and have the team grow cohesive, for the explorations planed in the coming days. Lot of strong personalities about ;-)
The rap in the first 2 videos is 90 feet into a keeper, that one can get out the side door in the right water conditions. Note the lack of any anchor options. This pothole was dry during another descent and worked well with the sandtrap.
Note the hose on the rope by the lip. This prevents rope grooves. While the water trap will pull up out of the water a bit till mostly surrounded by air, not water, it was not necessary to stand on the rope. The geometry here is near ideal
Note how the back up rope was near but not quite weight supporting the anchor. With sandtraps you can be close as a back up. If water trap goes over the lip, that has a lot more weight, so when testing the water trap, back up people situate much further back for safety.
The fellow in the far back seen briefly is John Corbin (The hero in the Close to the Edge story). He went first solving a tough keeper, just up canyon, behind him and slid to being last here. Stevee (on rap here) when he gets to the bottom of the rap will slip to the rear of the group, doing the clean up from the rap he goes first on. Others will move forward. In this way the group flows better and everyone gets to play with all the toys, in all the different roles.
While the shown anchor uses heavy trash bags, within mesh holder, within sandtrap, Tom has several ideas to improve the trap.
Both Jenny’s and Tom’s water traps work well where applicable (When used right) and testing continues. They fill a hole in anchoring raps off of wet potholes beautifully. The last video is of a trap being pulled a few days later. Ram
TomJones
I have not really tried it since November 15th. On that occassion, I did rig the rap ring/fiddlestick combo, but the trap released by a different mechanism.
Returning to the fray, I think this will be one of the best release options available, however, this is a very dry year so far, so the WaterTrap will not be on the agenda until some water magically appears from the sky.
Tom
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “stevebrezovec” wrote:
Great vids! > I understand the rap ring / fiddle stick rigging is under development. How is that working?
Stevee
> — In Yahoo Canyons Group, “TomJones” wrote:
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
Jonathan Zambella took some video during our October trip in Glen Canyon. Mike Henkin put these up on Youtube for me.
They show the use of one of the two water trap anchors. The one in the video is Tom’s, (Jenny West has made the other prototype) version that is being tested now here.
> Not yet ready for primetime, but working on it. The trash compactor bag model is a little too ghetto, and Jenny’s works better, but is hard to make. I am working on an integration of the ideas. you can see that one problem is that the bag can take a 200′ fall by itself and needs to be able to survive that fall, so it can hold water again at the next drop.
Tom
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stevebrezovec
Great vids! I understand the rap ring / fiddle stick rigging is under development. How is that working?
Stevee
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “TomJones” wrote:
— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
Jonathan Zambella took some video during our October trip in Glen Canyon. Mike Henkin put these up on Youtube for me.
They show the use of one of the two water trap anchors. The one in the video is Tom’s, (Jenny West has made the other prototype) version that is being tested now here.
Not yet ready for primetime, but working on it. The trash compactor bag model is a little too ghetto, and Jenny’s works better, but is hard to make. I am working on an integration of the ideas. you can see that one problem is that the bag can take a 200′ fall by itself and needs to be able to survive that fall, so it can hold water again at the next drop.
Tom >
Tim Hoover
Either that or carry two bags.
________________________________  Not yet ready for primetime, but working on it. The trash compactor bag model is a little too ghetto, and Jenny’s works better, but is hard to make. I am working on an integration of the ideas. you can see that one problem is that the bag can take a 200′ fall by itself and needs to be able to survive that fall, so it can hold water again at the next drop.
Tom
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— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “RAM” wrote:
Jonathan Zambella took some video during our October trip in Glen Canyon. Mike Henkin put these up on Youtube for me.
They show the use of one of the two water trap anchors. The one in the video is Tom’s, (Jenny West has made the other prototype) version that is being tested now here. >
Not yet ready for primetime, but working on it. The trash compactor bag model is a little too ghetto, and Jenny’s works better, but is hard to make. I am working on an integration of the ideas. you can see that one problem is that the bag can take a 200′ fall by itself and needs to be able to survive that fall, so it can hold water again at the next drop.
Tom