Aching muscles indeed. Those paddles suck like nobodies businness. We are a masochistic bunch. Rich, sounds like you have done some fine work talking with the NPS about packrafts, will be curious to see were the regs end up. Thanks for the fine thread.
The odd thing about the route was that there were 2-3 raps below the big wall, in the next quarter mile. None of the classic “grand finale” rap so common to the Navajo/Kayenta sandstone boundary. I’m not sure, but early beta from Kelsey books didn’t mention these raps below the big wall? When he first published, what proved to be incomplete beta on this canyon….was it 2nd edition in the early 90’s? I remember being in awe and suddenly tuned into canyons that could trap you easily. In reality and with more seasoning, it is not too bad at all. “Pretty standard, really” as has been said. 😉 There are 2 potholes that one can manage to get around with 4th class moves. Both of these would be interesting, if not bypassable. If I were to return, I would be most excited about the 100 foot rap leading to the spot 20 feet above the sorta semi hanging big wall station. This is a remarkable chute, very steep, yet very secure and would make a fantastic “elevator” downclimb. Heavy pack and the fact that I was called forward and needed to rush, prevented doing it this time. While a very secure climb, the big air one can “feel” just below adds a giddy quality to the area. The only other time I remember downclimbing over such air in a canyon was Jacob Canyon, where 150 feet of downclimbing is done at the top of this 450 foot big wall. It is only class 3 and 4 and very reasonable. Mr.Cabe has done that same downclimb, if I am correct. Spice of life. R
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Nice Tom.  That wall on the last rap looks HUGE.
> From: Tom Jones Subject: [from Canyons Group] Waterholes Canyon TR
To: Yahoo Canyons Group
> Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 12:10 PM
up on the Latest Rave:
http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/rave
> Enjoy.
Tom >
Aching muscles indeed. Those paddles suck like nobodies businness. We are a masochistic bunch. Rich, sounds like you have done some fine work talking with the NPS about packrafts, will be curious to see were the regs end up. Thanks for the fine thread.
Phillip
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— In Yahoo Canyons Group, scott patterson wrote:
Nice Tom.  That wall on the last rap looks HUGE.
> From: Tom Jones To: Yahoo Canyons Group
Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 12:10 PM > up on the Latest Rave: >http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/rave
Enjoy. > Tom
The odd thing about the route was that there were 2-3 raps below the big wall, in the next quarter mile. None of the classic “grand finale” rap so common to the Navajo/Kayenta sandstone boundary. I’m not sure, but early beta from Kelsey books didn’t mention these raps below the big wall? When he first published, what proved to be incomplete beta on this canyon….was it 2nd edition in the early 90’s? I remember being in awe and suddenly tuned into canyons that could trap you easily. In reality and with more seasoning, it is not too bad at all. “Pretty standard, really” as has been said. 😉 There are 2 potholes that one can manage to get around with 4th class moves. Both of these would be interesting, if not bypassable. If I were to return, I would be most excited about the 100 foot rap leading to the spot 20 feet above the sorta semi hanging big wall station. This is a remarkable chute, very steep, yet very secure and would make a fantastic “elevator” downclimb. Heavy pack and the fact that I was called forward and needed to rush, prevented doing it this time. While a very secure climb, the big air one can “feel” just below adds a giddy quality to the area. The only other time I remember downclimbing over such air in a canyon was Jacob Canyon, where 150 feet of downclimbing is done at the top of this 450 foot big wall. It is only class 3 and 4 and very reasonable. Mr.Cabe has done that same downclimb, if I am correct. Spice of life. R
scott patterson
Nice Tom.  That wall on the last rap looks HUGE.
— On Sun, 3/1/09, Tom Jones ratagonia@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Tom Jones ratagonia@gmail.com> Subject: [from Canyons Group] Waterholes Canyon TR To: Yahoo Canyons Group Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 12:10 PM
up on the Latest Rave:
http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/rave
Enjoy.
Tom
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