Can anyone enlighten me as to the best insulative method for doubling up on wet suits? Shorty over or under full suit and why.
Dave
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Can anyone enlighten me as to the best insulative method for doubling up on wet suits? Shorty over or under full suit and why.
Dave
neil wilkinson
Achieving tightness (good seal) is most important. I have always put the shorty/vest/shorts whatever under the ‘full’ suit. Just one man’s opinion – Neil
PS – Like Charly, the only time I have doubled up I knew it was going to be really cold and removing layers except ‘after’ the cold event has never really been an issue.
charlybldr@aol.com wrote: I guess this one is sort of “situation dependent”.
Whenever I’ve had the occasion to “double up” the water has been cold enough to not even consider peeling off one of the wetsuits (blue lips and uncontrollable shivering). That said, as Tom recommends I found the shorty underneath worked pretty well. Seals things up pretty good.
When I want the ability to adjust layers I wear a farmer john with a jacket. The farmer john is great for wading long stretches and shallow pot holes. The jacket can easily be added for the swims and cold dark sections.
Charly —–Original Message—– From: haas@xmission.com [mailto:haas@xmission.com] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:41 AM To: Yahoo Canyons Group Subject: Re: [from Canyons Group] wet suit physics?
Well, you might get too warm in your wet suit, particularly on top in a canyoneering situation. For that reason it’s most convenient to layer the shorty on top so you can peel it off.
— Walt
“David Meding” jabridaka@comcast.net> wrote:
> Can anyone enlighten me as to the best insulative method for > doubling up on wet suits? Shorty over or under full suit and why. > > Dave ——- “If this is comfortable for you, you aren’t pushing yourself hard enough.” – Lonnie Burton “I like thinking big. If you’re going to be thinking anything, you might as well think big.” – Donald Trump
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I guess this one is sort of “situation dependent”.
Whenever I’ve had the occasion to “double up” the water has been cold enough to not even consider peeling off one of the wetsuits (blue lips and uncontrollable shivering). That said, as Tom recommends I found the shorty underneath worked pretty well. Seals things up pretty good.
When I want the ability to adjust layers I wear a farmer john with a jacket. The farmer john is great for wading long stretches and shallow pot holes. The jacket can easily be added for the swims and cold dark sections.
Charly —–Original Message—– From: haas@xmission.com [mailto:haas@xmission.com] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:41 AM To: Yahoo Canyons Group Subject: Re: [from Canyons Group] wet suit physics?
Well, you might get too warm in your wet suit, particularly on top in a canyoneering situation. For that reason it’s most convenient to layer the shorty on top so you can peel it off.
— Walt
“David Meding” jabridaka@comcast.net> wrote:
> Can anyone enlighten me as to the best insulative method for > doubling up on wet suits? Shorty over or under full suit and why. > > Dave ——- “If this is comfortable for you, you aren’t pushing yourself hard enough.” – Lonnie Burton “I like thinking big. If you’re going to be thinking anything, you might as well think big.” – Donald Trump
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Well, you might get too warm in your wet suit, particularly on top in a canyoneering situation. For that reason it’s most convenient to layer the shorty on top so you can peel it off.
— Walt
“David Meding” jabridaka@comcast.net> wrote:
> Can anyone enlighten me as to the best insulative method for > doubling up on wet suits? Shorty over or under full suit and why.
Dave ——- “If this is comfortable for you, you aren’t pushing yourself hard enough.” – Lonnie Burton “I like thinking big. If you’re going to be thinking anything, you might as well think big.” – Donald Trump
Randi
Bummer. I thought the e-group was getting fun again. When I first spied this post, I thought Dave was looking for “Wetsuit Psychics” Oh well…….
Since when is a long wetsuit cooler than a short one? I’d rather peel off the long one and be left with the short one when hot…..Makes more sense to me! hehehe
“Walt Haas (www.xmission.com/~haas)” haas@xmission.com> wrote: Well, you might get too warm in your wet suit, particularly on top in a canyoneering situation. For that reason it’s most convenient to layer the shorty on top so you can peel it off.
— Walt
“David Meding” jabridaka@comcast.net> wrote:
> Can anyone enlighten me as to the best insulative method for > doubling up on wet suits? Shorty over or under full suit and why.
Dave ——- “If this is comfortable for you, you aren’t pushing yourself hard enough.” – Lonnie Burton “I like thinking big. If you’re going to be thinking anything, you might as well think big.” – Donald Trump
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— In Yahoo Canyons Group, “David Meding” wrote: > Can anyone enlighten me as to the best insulative method for > doubling up on wet suits? Shorty over or under full suit and why.
Dave
I’d say, whichever way is going to give you the tightest fit. Seems like the double wetsuit works well because very little water gets down to skin level, kinda almost wetsuit/drysuit style.
Tom